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 Post subject: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:53 am 
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hello.
i search to understand the different mk1 and 2 in australia, in europe is not the same.
europe :
1959 at 1967 : mk1
1967 at 1969 : mk2
1970 : mk3
in australia, you have european mk1 doors and australian doors
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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:00 am 
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1961 to 1969 = Mk1
1969 to 1971 = Mk2
1971 to 1978 = Clubman/Leyland

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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:18 am 
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Were any of the basic models ever officially called "Mk2" in any of the factory documents? I've always though that once the 1100 engine was used in the K and 1100 that was the changeover?

Mini Minor -> Mini 1100
Deluxe -> Mini K
The Mini-Matic was the only one that continued with the same badge.

Obviously the Cooper S had Mk2 factory designation but what about the others?

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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:34 am 
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There is a guide here on identifying Mk1 and Mk2 Cooper S with lots of photos
https://classicregister.com/id-pages/ho ... oper-s-mk1
https://classicregister.com/id-guides/h ... oper-s-mk2

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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:40 am 
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The Mk1 never came into existence until the Mk2 was released in 1969. Up til then it was known as the 'Morris Cooper S'


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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:19 pm 
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I like the comment by Stibbsy, - when I was much younger, there was no Mk1 Cooper S or any other variant that us general public knew of.


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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:32 pm 
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timmy201 wrote:
Were any of the basic models ever officially called "Mk2" in any of the factory documents? I've always though that once the 1100 engine was used in the K and 1100 that was the changeover?

Mini Minor -> Mini 1100
Deluxe -> Mini K
The Mini-Matic was the only one that continued with the same badge.

Obviously the Cooper S had Mk2 factory designation but what about the others?

In 1969 before the MK II Cooper S was released other Mini models were using the MK II designation, at least in some parts of the organisation.

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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
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Stibbsy wrote:
The Mk1 never came into existence until the Mk2 was released in 1969. Up til then it was known as the 'Morris Cooper S'


and more often than not, just, Cooper or Cooper Ess :!: :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:42 pm 
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winabbey wrote:
timmy201 wrote:
Were any of the basic models ever officially called "Mk2" in any of the factory documents? I've always though that once the 1100 engine was used in the K and 1100 that was the changeover?

Mini Minor -> Mini 1100
Deluxe -> Mini K
The Mini-Matic was the only one that continued with the same badge.

Obviously the Cooper S had Mk2 factory designation but what about the others?

In 1969 before the MK II Cooper S was released other Mini models were using the MK II designation, at least in some parts of the organisation.

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Very interesting Doug thanks!

I wonder if any Mini Van 1100 - Automatic models were ever made?

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 4:31 pm 
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1098 automatic was used in Morris 1100 until they went to the 1100S auto (1275).
I don't believe the 1098 auto officially went into the Mini range, even though my Matic's compliance plate prefix is incorrectly stamped YG2S5.
The body prefix is stamped YA 2S5. For the 998.
I am aware of one Minimatic with the 1098 auto, allegedly original production. It would have made it a better car.

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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 7:59 pm 
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ok, thank.
but european mk2 don't import in australian.
you have used clubman.


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 Post subject: Re: mk1, mk2
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:34 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:41 pm 
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The square rear lights were Clubman only

All Australian cars had the "MK1" rear window size, and all had the short front doors (UK Mk2 onwards had taller doors)

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:28 pm 
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Australian built minis are all based on the original UK MK1 body shell.
We didn't get the larger rear window and always had the external door hinges.
The boot lid, wind up windows with quarter vents and burst proof door locks are really the only significant changes.
There are a lot of minor variations to the body shell but the bodies are all still based on the original UK MK1 shell.
Even the clubman front variation was still based on the original UK MK1 style body shell.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:45 pm 
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miniron wrote:
There are a lot of minor variations to the body shell but the bodies are all still based on the original UK MK1 shell.
Even the clubman front variation was still based on the original UK MK1 style body shell.

RonR


That explains why the new floors I have fitted to my 1965 mini, (boot & interior) sourced from a 1972 Clubman, fit absolutely perfectly!

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