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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:00 am 
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Looking for the paint details for a Mk 2 Australian Cooper S Engine.
I understand that most of the engine and gearbox was painted in the Australian metallic green.
Would anybody have more about the detail of parts painted for example was the water pump pulley painted yellow? etc.
Looking at repainting the engine so would like to get the detail correct.
Any photo's would be good as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:02 pm 
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Firefirey wrote:
Looking for the paint details for a Mk 2 Australian Cooper S Engine.
I understand that most of the engine and gearbox was painted in the Australian metallic green.
Would anybody have more about the detail of parts painted for example was the water pump pulley painted yellow? etc.
Looking at repainting the engine so would like to get the detail correct.
Any photo's would be good as well.

Cheers.


There are not many pics of an original MK2 S engine bay getting around. Modern Motor June 1970 did a road test on a MK2 S rego AMP324. I only have an engine bay pic taken from the Ebay sale of the magazine and it is very blurry. However it shows the top radiator bracket in the engine colour.
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I was also looking for some original pics but have not had any replies to my post from earlier this year. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=96730&p=1030533#p1030533

If you look at the other engine bays for the MK1 S, Mini K and Clubman GT you will see they all have the top radiator bracket painted the engine colour.
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1968 Cooper S brochure late 1967 engine.jpg

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1969 Mini K engine bay.jpg

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Clubman GT engine bay B&W 1971.jpg



I have looked through my photos of unrestored, low km or one owner cars and many of the top radiator brackets are black. All of the fan pulleys are black.


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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:30 pm 
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gtogreen1969 wrote:
There are not many pics of an original MK2 S engine bay getting around. Modern Motor June 1970 did a road test on a MK2 S rego AMP324. I only have an engine bay pic taken from the Ebay sale of the magazine and it is very blurry. However it shows the top radiator bracket in the engine colour.

I'll have a copy of that one soon and can scan a better quality image for you

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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:31 pm 
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There are not many pics of an original MK2 S engine bay getting around. Modern Motor June 1970 did a road test on a MK2 S rego AMP324. I only have an engine bay pic taken from the Ebay sale of the magazine and it is very blurry. However it shows the top radiator bracket in the engine colour.

I'll have a copy of that one soon and can scan a better quality image for you


Thank you sooooooooooooooooooooo much. :D

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:23 pm 
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There should be some overspray on the alternator plastic brush cover, the dipstick and the starter motor too, from memory!


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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
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From memory, top radiator bkt, solenoid mounting bkt, clutch slave cylinder were all the same colour as the engine. Coil bkt was coated silver. Water pump pulley black.


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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:33 pm 
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Thanks so far for the photo's and details to date
The water pump pulley was one that I was unsure about. I thought it may have been the same colour as the engine.
If you think there are any further details please let me know.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:52 am 
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I think earlier cars got a yellow pump pulley but later it just got black.

There’s an old film doco called horses to horsepower on the Aust Zetland factory. It shows an A series being painted. They did a pretty rough job. Thru an auto spray booth, few rough cardboard covers on the plugs and dissy. Note the colour pic above they simply painted the plastic oil filler cap.

Looking thru old magazines and brochures is the best way to research stuff like this.

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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
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This is the best I can get with my phone camera. I can scan it at work next week.
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There is a video here on automatic engine assembly showing the painting from around the 11:00 mark, and engines waiting to be installed
https://youtu.be/ieraaVfUs4Q?t=10m59s

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timmy201 wrote:
This is the best I can get with my phone camera. I can scan it at work next week.


Thanks for going out of your way and doing that.

Here are some outside pics of the same Test car.
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AMP324 MK2 S driving.jpg

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AMP324 MK2 S front.jpg

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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:16 pm 
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Thanks to everybody for there help and input. Great photo's also.
Would someone have the colour code or details to mix the correct engine colour. Metallic Green.
I don't think shipping paint from Australia is an option so if I had the detail's I'd get it done here.
I also don't have an original sample to colour match :(
A big thank you too Doug for his sample of the inner cooper s wheel colour ( Primer ). :)

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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:14 pm 
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I have just had a small tin of metallic green mixed at a local Motospray outlet. They included the formula, which is in their Auto Enamel line.
I don't know if NZ has Motospray brand - it was owned by Hi-Chem and now by Rustoleum, which is in NZ.
But the formula for this colour can't be used with a different brand.
The engine green metallic is very, very, very similar to an old 1970s Chrysler/Mitsubishi(Aust) colour called Sherwood Green (Met.) which might be easier to track down.
It looks like this.


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What colour is the engine steady bar and associated fitting bracket at the engine end? Looks to be bare metal.


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 Post subject: Re: Engine paint detail
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:56 pm 
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The bar is natural, zinc plated; the brackets (obscured by the heater tap) are satin black but the 2 bolts and spacer washer on engine end (just visible) are also zinc.


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