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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 5:39 pm 
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Hi
Could any body advise or show a photo of a Cooper s Grill piece spacer part number 24A1152 which helps to keep the grill from making contact to the oil cooler on the Cooper S. Listed in the Australian parts manual PUB 1056M Page RH-3 But not shown.
I have some info on this part but would like to learn more.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:09 pm 
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I believe the same part is used under the carpet clips in a Cooper S.
If someone can give me dimensions I will machine a bunch up from black HDPE plastic.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:37 pm 
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drmini in aust wrote:
I believe the same part is used under the carpet clips in a Cooper S.
If someone can give me dimensions I will machine a bunch up from black HDPE plastic.


That is the info which I have so I have gone down that road and have got some made but with little info on this subject.
Would be nice to see an original part to back up the recent info or those boy's with all that original BMC hand's on.
John! Could you help out on this one.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:08 pm 
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Was discussed here 2009 : http://forum.minicooper.org/showthread.php?t=10961

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There is a blurry (loch ness monster sighting type) photo at the end of Page 1 of the carpet clip.... (apparently courtesy Mick from Ausmini) (Can see image if you logon but not very helpful)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:19 pm 
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Take a look at...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:35 pm 
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Some good photos in those other AusMini threads....

Oh well :roll: ... here's one I just prepared....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:37 pm 
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As mentioned in some of those related threads, if someone is willing to make a large supply of them I reckon they would be a wanted item by many restorers seeking a sympathetic restoration. Perhaps not totally necessary for the carpet stud spacer but the grill spacer is more visible.

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According to the April 1971 price book they cost 4 cents each !!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:56 pm 
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I'm sure we can get them cheaper from China :lol:

Just need to measure them up and find something like this ?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-Pack-M5-5-3-mm-Inside-D-Nylon-Plastic-Spacers-Various-Sizes-and-Lengths-/231063243966?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item35cc714cbe#ht_5823wt_1160


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MINImal effort wrote:

There is a blurry (loch ness monster sighting type) photo at the end of Page 1 of the carpet clip.... (apparently courtesy Mick from Ausmini) (Can see image if you logon but not very helpful)



For those with fuzzy vision, if you take your glasses off, it actually sharpens the image.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:17 pm 
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Do we think the originals are parallel on the sides, or concave as per Minimal effort's parts pic?
I always thought they were parallel.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:35 am 
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Do we think the originals are parallel on the sides, or concave as per Minimal effort's parts pic?
I always thought they were parallel.


Hi
Thanks to all who have taken time to share the info on the grill distance piece.
I think I got it right from what you have told me.
I have had 40 made and they have turned out great and look original.
They did cost a lot more than 4 cents each Lol and I still have some plastic rod left if more need to be made.
Can put a photo on the site at a later date.

Cheers Peter.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:09 am 
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Hi Peter,
A photo soon would be good. What were the dimensions you used?
John

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:15 pm 
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The photos below are of the grille spacer and screw removed from an unmolested 1970 MK II Cooper S.

The spacer measures 5/16" diameter by 1/4" high. The hole allows a 1/8" drill bit to be loosely inserted.

The spacer is made from a very hard black 'plastic'. The ends are flat and have a rough surface, as if they've been sawn or cut. The sides are slightly concave and have a shiny surface typical of extruded or moulded plastic products.

Contrary to previous suggestions the concave sides could not be as a result of the spacer being squashed when installed. The material is simply too hard for that to occur. In any case, drawings of the spacer in several parts books clearly show the concave surface. Whether this is by design or as a by-product of the manufacturing process is open to conjecture. Only the engineering drawing for this part can provide a definitive answer.

In the parts book the part number for the screw is PTZ604, which translates into recessed pan-head tapping screw Type A 1/2" long zinc plated gauge 6. However I think it should be PTZ606 which is 3/4" long, the extra 1/4" to allow for the spacer. The screw in the photo is 3/4" long and is an original part. The screw is a firm fit inside the spacer so the screw and spacer remain attached to the grille when it's removed. If it were a loose fit the spacer and screw could be easily lost.

I hope this will assist someone to make authentic replacements.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:42 pm 
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Here's a sample of the grille and carpet spacers that Firefirey has had made, shown next to an original. They seem to me to be the same hardness and colour as the original.

Despite not having the slight concave side I challenge anyone to recognise the difference once fitted to a car.

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