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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:54 pm 
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Hi all, I just had a very “yes minister” discussion with a very helpful person from the RMS about the online vehicle history report that will tell you, amongst other things, whether the vehicle was a taxi or hire car, been written off, date of first rego etc. but here’s the catch...
- we know that a REVS check cannot be done on an early mini because it doesn’t have a 17 character VIN. Therefore no REVS check can be done on the vehicle history.
- The NSW RMS has a facility for checking the vehicles registration status via a check of the registration number or alternatively, I can pay money and get the above detailed information.
However, all NSW RMS reports are based on a number plate.
So, if I buy a second hand car that’s earlier than the introduction of VIN and it doesn’t have a Number plate then I currently have no way of checking the history of the vehicle.
A statutory write off cannot be registered in NSW so this is important to find out prior to sinking dollars into any restoration.
However, if I pay my money and buy the car, restore it and and can get it registered then, because it now has a number plate I can get the history from the RMS. As number plates are removable it strikes me as back the front that I have to buy and register an old car to find out the history. Surely chassis number exists in the computer and that is a more reliable method of vehicle history. It’s the cart before the horse...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:03 pm 
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Their website suggests you can do a revs check by chassis number. One problem would be is there could be many vehicles with the same chassis number, especially if it's just a 4 or 5 digit number
https://www.ppsr.gov.au/revs-register-e ... d-vehicles

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:20 pm 
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The statutory write off rules don’t apply to older cars, so if it was written off in another lifetime you can repair and reregister it.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:12 pm 
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thomas_hb wrote:
The statutory write off rules don’t apply to older cars, so if it was written off in another lifetime you can repair and reregister it.


Not exactly true.

What is true is that prior to the introduction of the REVS and then PPRS databases there was no means to checck within a state and thence nationally that a car's identity was regitered as having been written off. If they have no record of an older car, then as far as the registration records go, it was unregistered and can then be re-registered.

You need to be careful about this. I bought a used car from a dealer here in NSW, REVS checked out OK. It was only when i went to trade it in on another used car that the dealer refused because PPRS showed it had been a statutory write off in Victoria at a time when there was not even such a regulation in NSW. The only change in between me buying the car and the dealer refusing to take it as a trade in was that the records held had chnged from state based to national.

If there was no record in NSW of a statutory write off of your older Mini under REVS, but in Victoria it was, when you go to re-register it, NSW RMS will now check it on PPRS, which then shows the VIctorian record.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:22 pm 
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*PPSR*

https://www.ppsr.gov.au/how-quick-motor-vehicle-search

it states to use the chassis number for vehicles manufactured before 1989

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:45 pm 
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simon k wrote:
*PPSR*

https://www.ppsr.gov.au/how-quick-motor-vehicle-search

it states to use the chassis number for vehicles manufactured before 1989


PPSR actually stands for P1$$ Poor Service Regularly...

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:21 pm 
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simon k wrote:
*PPSR*

https://www.ppsr.gov.au/how-quick-motor-vehicle-search

it states to use the chassis number for vehicles manufactured before 1989


meh, you know i can't spell acronyms

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