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 Post subject: Re: concourse judging
PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:07 pm 
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1071 S wrote:
I doubt you've judged many (any?) "true" concours events....

A "true" Concours judged cars on style, engineering, and originality ... as in original, meaning not seen before, new, ground breaking ... not copies of something spewed of the production line years ago...

Todays polishing contests are just that ...and the efforts involved are not to be sneezed at.. But the contestants should know how many points are to be awarded for "showroom" condition including whether points are lost for using copies of original parts or over restoration... In most cases "presentation" is the key.

A few years ago I had the opportunity to see a whole bunch of "original" Cooper Ss being judged. I would suggest pretty well none of them were representative of a showroom model but more of what BMC might have liked to produce ( or maybe what customers might have preferred) if there wasn't a budget and schedule to get cars out the door.. i.e. not very original at all....

Somehow I doubt concours would have been Issi's thing....



Cheers, Ian



I'm sorry Ian.....For someone who has never met me you seem to know more about my experience in Judging cars than I do. I have been a judge in Concourse D'Elegance for many different marques over the years, and as little as 18 months ago. While your post is insulting and your description of a Concourse event is entertaining it is not correct. The whole idea of a concourse has nothing to do with a persons individuality, but is entirely focused on the car's originality. What you are describing is a common "car show" See Ric's description as per Pebble Beach for an idea of what a Concourse event can entail.

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 Post subject: Re: concourse judging
PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:24 pm 
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Like I said....

You horizons a re somewhat limited.

Cheers, Ian


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 Post subject: Re: concourse judging
PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:47 pm 
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1071 S wrote:
Like I said....

You horizons a re somewhat limited.

Cheers, Ian
I am trying to follow this conversation to learn more about the way these cars are judged and I dont understand what this comment means.


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 Post subject: Re: concourse judging
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:48 pm 
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Arm chair experts there are many!

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 Post subject: Re: concourse judging
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:17 pm 
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gtogreen1969 wrote:
1071 S wrote:
Like I said....

You horizons a re somewhat limited.

Cheers, Ian
I am trying to follow this conversation to learn more about the way these cars are judged and I dont understand what this comment means.



A polite way to say you are short sighted maybe! Academics eh!


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