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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:09 pm 
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FFFFFFFFFFF fast! Well a little bit fast anyway. Haha

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:12 pm 
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drmini in aust wrote:
Does it have disc brakes? If so they may be Metro swivel hubs, which give positive camber unless longer lower arms are fitted.


don't metro's have different ball joints, i.e. screw in not on?


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Early ones had Mini balljoints.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:32 pm 
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adjusted my suspension height today and camber is still all over the place, heaps of positive camber I think I'll buy the adjustable bottom arms and tie rods. Is the rear adjustment kit necessary or just do the washer weld mod when i get it right? Rear camber is all over the shop too

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:40 am 
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hpal wrote:
adjusted my suspension height today and camber is still all over the place, heaps of positive camber I think I'll buy the adjustable bottom arms and tie rods. Is the rear adjustment kit necessary or just do the washer weld mod when i get it right? Rear camber is all over the shop too
If you go adjustable for the rear, I wouldn't use anything other than the KAD brackets... Nothing else I tried from the usual suppliers was any good - other than that, modify the standard ones.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:48 pm 
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I'd like to get the rear right the cheapest way without brackets if I possibly can, but will buy them if needed.
Minisport have a kit with 1.5 or 2.0 deg neg camber front lowers arms, If I went for them would it change my camber on the front by 2 degrees from current setting (positive camber) or 2.0 deg negative from dead vertical? Or should I get the adjustables in case one side of the car has something misaligned from factory? Can this happen?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:20 pm 
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hpal wrote:
I'd like to get the rear right the cheapest way without brackets if I possibly can, but will buy them if needed.
Minisport have a kit with 1.5 or 2.0 deg neg camber front lowers arms, If I went for them would it change my camber on the front by 2 degrees from current setting (positive camber) or 2.0 deg negative from dead vertical? Or should I get the adjustables in case one side of the car has something misaligned from factory? Can this happen?


A -2 deg camber arm will give you 2 deg less than what you currently have. If you currently have +1 on the left and +2 on the right. After fitting the arms you will end up with -1 on the left and 0 on the right. If you don't know what your car currently has then I would suggest adjustables.

I have used 2 different types of cheap rear camber kits. One broke and the other was crap to get correct. If you know what you are doing then modify the standard ones yourself.

Do you have a camber-caster tool? https://www.minimania.com/TOOL10___Instr viewtopic.php?f=2&t=88771&p=973165

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:04 pm 
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Thanks I'll go with adjustable lower arms, I don't have the alignment tool but it looks easy enough to make.
Edit: Printed one off on A4 and will stick it to a piece of mdf or coreflute and make my own with a pendulum, should be great!

Going to modify the original rear brackets, looks easy. Will measure and mark on the brackets and slot them with an end mill on the milling machine then make a neat washer to tack in place to hold them. Measured factory settings at 0.5 deg toe in (not sure what that is in inches?) and 2.5 degrees positive camber. Might leave toe as is and get 0.5 negative camber and leave it at that.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:35 am 
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Can someone please confirm what 0.5 degrees per side toe in on the rear equates to in inches and is this an ok figure to run?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:27 am 
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hpal wrote:
Can someone please confirm what 0.5 degrees per side toe in on the rear equates to in inches and is this an ok figure to run?


I can't see an angle setting for the rear but the manual says that the front toe out is 7' 30" (7 minutes 30 seconds) each side and that equates to 0.8mm each side.
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I run about 1 mm toe in each side on the rear - 2mm total toe in.

The front is 0.8mm each side - 1.6mm total toe out.

Edited - 7' 30"


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:11 pm 
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7 1/2 minutes...... NOT degrees

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:18 pm 
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1071 S wrote:
7 1/2 minutes...... NOT degrees

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Sorry Ian. I should have proof read my reply. In my defence it was 3AM when i replied.

7' 30" is 7 minutes and 30 seconds.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:39 pm 
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Is this the correct way to measure the toe in? Have removed the rear brackets and will modify tomorrow, pretty easy job and once it's set up then shouldn't have to touch it. The mini had too much toe in standard and about 2 to 3 degrees positive camber, I'll make it just a touch of toe in and about 1 deg negative camber and she should be sweet, will get the tyre place to give me a printout of what it is when they check it all over. I'll do a rough job at home and they can tweak it up.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:28 pm 
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My last 2 cars i have used the following setup. Make a string line box around the car and measure the gap between the string and tyres at the front and rear sidewalls. Make sure the strings are parallel and square to the car.

The workshop manual says to measure the distance on the inside of the tyres and roll the car forward but you would need an adjustable bar to do that.

Your supposed to take the measurements 239mm from the ground and at a diameter 368mm (which roughly equates to halfway up the tyre the halfway along the sidewall.)

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