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Trying to put the car back together but cant seem to remember where the horn bolts up?

Phots of loction mat help.

Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes?

Asiemek wrote:

Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes?

When you say scuttle panel do you really mean bonnet slam panel? Where the wire is draped over. That is where my horn is located on my '65 Riley Elf.

Asiemek wrote:

Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes?

Cars with the horn on the subframe near the radiator usually have two extension wires plugged in to the loom with spade connectors near where the horn was sometimes mounted on the driver's side of the bonnet catch panel to make the wiring reach.

Matt I wrote:

Asiemek wrote:

Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes?

Its a modified loom not original. So no extensions. The provision is for somewhere on the drivers side.

Does anyone have a stanrd delixe photo of engine bay with mounting locations?

I think the early Mk2 Cooper S had a bent bracket fitted to the front slam panel. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Author:	Asiemek [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Trying to put the car back together but cant seem to remember where the horn bolts up? Phots of loction mat help.

Author:	gtogreen1969 [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:45 pm ]
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Asiemek wrote: Trying to put the car back together but cant seem to remember where the horn bolts up? Phots of loction mat help. Maybe down there behind the grill under the generator Attachment: Deluxe horn.jpg

Author:	Scoop [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:56 pm ]
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Thats where one of my Deluxe horns was located. Bolted to the front subframe.

Author:	Asiemek [ Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Thanks. There dont seem to be any holes in the subframe thats what got me a.little confused

Author:	timmy201 [ Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:09 am ]
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Perhaps on the top like they were on my car ?

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Author:	Asiemek [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:43 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes?

Author:	DavidE [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Asiemek wrote: Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes? When you say scuttle panel do you really mean bonnet slam panel? Where the wire is draped over. That is where my horn is located on my '65 Riley Elf.

Author:	Matt I [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:57 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Asiemek wrote: Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes? Cars with the horn on the subframe near the radiator usually have two extension wires plugged in to the loom with spade connectors near where the horn was sometimes mounted on the driver's side of the bonnet catch panel to make the wiring reach.

Author:	Asiemek [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
DavidE wrote: Asiemek wrote: Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes? When you say scuttle panel do you really mean bonnet slam panel? Where the wire is draped over. That is where my horn is located on my '65 Riley Elf. I mean I'm nside panel infront of the regulator.

Author:	Asiemek [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Matt I wrote: Asiemek wrote: Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes? Cars with the horn on the subframe near the radiator usually have two extension wires plugged in to the loom with spade connectors near where the horn was sometimes mounted on the driver's side of the bonnet catch panel to make the wiring reach. Its a modified loom not original. So no extensions. The provision is for somewhere on the drivers side. Does anyone have a stanrd delixe photo of engine bay with mounting locations?

Author:	gtogreen1969 [ Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Asiemek wrote: Matt I wrote: Asiemek wrote: Still a bit stumped on this one. Wiring is on drivers side near front apron. 2 small holes on inside of scuttle panel. I was sure it bolted to the subframe but no holes? Cars with the horn on the subframe near the radiator usually have two extension wires plugged in to the loom with spade connectors near where the horn was sometimes mounted on the driver's side of the bonnet catch panel to make the wiring reach. Its a modified loom not original. So no extensions. The provision is for somewhere on the drivers side. Does anyone have a stanrd delixe photo of engine bay with mounting locations? You won't be able to see the deluxe horn location from an original engine bay photo. Its too hidden. It was attached to the front subframe. This thread viewtopic.php?f=3&t=95625 shows the horn attached to the subframe after it was dropped out the bottom. The 2 holes are on the front face and a 90 degree bracket is used. Attachment: Deluxe horn attached to subframe.jpg Attachment: Subframe holes.jpg And another Attachment: Deluxe subframe and horn.jpg If you don't have those holes and don't want to extend your 2 wires then just use the flitch panel holes like in these 2 examples on a MK1 S and MK2 S. Attachment: Horn attached to Flitch Panel on MK1 S.jpg Attachment: Horn attached to Flitch Panel on MK2 S.JPG

Author:	Asiemek [ Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
Thanks gotogreen. The bracket on my horn was straight from memory. Will go through in more detail tomorrow when im in the shed.

Author:	cooperess [ Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
I think the early Mk2 Cooper S had a bent bracket fitted to the front slam panel. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Author:	gtogreen1969 [ Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
cooperess wrote: I think the early Mk2 Cooper S had a bent bracket fitted to the front slam panel. Correct me if I'm wrong. Most of the Mk1 S and Mk2 S have it there. If the slam panel is missing the 2 holes then the car may have had the horn attached to the inner guard under the booster. The 1971 S had it under the alternator.

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Author:	Whistler [ Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Silly question - horn position on 65 deluxe
This is a 66 UK Mk1. You can see the horn attached to the front panel by studs inset behind the slam panel and the horn is held on with 2 nuts. Pic shows horn twisted up, in line with heater control valve.