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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:13 am 
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Hi all

Has anybody got original coloured photo's of the MK 2 Australian Cooper S engine showing detail's such as hose clip's, colour detail etc etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:48 pm 
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have a look in the brochure section. should be one in there with a MINI K Brochure

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:41 pm 
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This 1970 MK II S has been restored but has the correct radiator, heater and PCV hose clips, plug leads and caps, black dizzy cap, wiper motor, washer bottle and partially taped loom.

I believe it should have a white plastic fan from the factory but happy to be challenged.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:46 am 
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Thanks Doug.
That photo will be very helpful.
Why a white fan?
I do remember my car having the narrow blade yellow plastic fan.There is the narrow blade and then a wider blade which I'm going back to the narrow blade with black water pump pulley.
Interesting point! White fan. Thought it was only on the Clubman GT.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:59 am 
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White fan came before the narrow yellow then wide yellow.
My 5/70 Minimatic had a white one before the blades flew off it. They were more brittle.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:18 pm 
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Ditto the white fan on my 8/70 S and still in one piece. This one is still flexible.
Engine colour seems very pale - not very green and more like mini K colour?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:08 pm 
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Bill B wrote:
Ditto the white fan on my 8/70 S and still in one piece. This one is still flexible.
Engine colour seems very pale - not very green and more like mini K colour?


Hi Bill B

Would you mind sending me a photo of your engine bay if you can? :-)

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My 70 clubman 1100 had a white fan, 71 cooper s is yellow

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:20 am 
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This is my 1970 S engine bay.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:06 pm 
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Thanks for the photo Bill B. In your photo the fan seem's to be more yellow looking :-)
All the photo's seem to be making the topic more confusing :-) :-(
White/clear or Yellow fan?
Have sorted some detail but the engine will need to go back in soon so a fan will need to be fitted.
Any further information on this detail be be much appreciated.
Then do you play it safe and put on a yellow fan as I have heard that the white/clear fan flies apart on more than a few occasions.
I keep thinking back and Ive seen a lot more yellow fan's fitted than white/clear.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:23 pm 
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I notice the PCV valve in both photos are bare alloy or silver. Is this correct?
I was going to paint the body of the PCV the metallic green engine colour, but I will take the advice if the experts.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:34 pm 
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Firefirey wrote:
Thanks for the photo Bill B. In your photo the fan seem's to be more yellow looking :-)
All the photo's seem to be making the topic more confusing :-) :-(
White/clear or Yellow fan?
Have sorted some detail but the engine will need to go back in soon so a fan will need to be fitted.
Any further information on this detail be be much appreciated.
Then do you play it safe and put on a yellow fan on as I have heard that the white/clear fan flies apart on more than a few occasions.
I keep thinking back and Ive seen a lot more yellow fan's fitted than white/clear.

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The MK2 S came out with the white plastic fan. The reason so many engines now have the yellow fan is because the original white ones failed. The UK sell the white plastic fans new but I would only fit one that is made from sturdier plastic than the original ones. If they cannot guarantee them not failing then I would use the yellow fan.

I don't have many colour photos of that era but the attached colour pics of a Mini K engine and Clubman Van engine both have the white plastic fans fitted.

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1969 Mini K engine.jpg

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1971 Clubman Van engine.jpg


And just to add some more confusion -

The Mini K van brochure has a pic of the new fan they have fitted. Yes its yellow but it has 3 bolt holes????
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The early Mini K sedan brochure shows the steel fan.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:12 pm 
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Following people have confirmed my understanding that the MK II S (and early Clubmans) had the white plastic fan.

John Smidt (MKO), Brian Pope (Link), David Walker (Link), Lindsay Siebler (Link, etc.)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:21 pm 
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Stibbsy wrote:
I notice the PCV valve in both photos are bare alloy or silver. Is this correct?
I was going to paint the body of the PCV the metallic green engine colour, but I will take the advice if the experts.


Its a shame we don't have good colour photos of the MK2 S engine bay from the period. We mainly have to go off photos of unrestored cars or brochures.

I don't believe the PCVs were painted on purpose - maybe oversprayed. All of the PCV valves shown in brochures or period magazines appear unpainted. The majority of the PCV valves I have seen on cars are unpainted. Here are some colour photos that may help. 2 are unrestored cars and one is the MK1 S colour brochure.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:57 pm 
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Be aware that UK power unit painting was different to Oz. I see discussed on some UK forums the method of painting certain ancillaries already attached to the power unit.

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