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Author:  glenndunn [ Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Master cylinders

I have a 67 mk1 Cooper S and these are the master cylinders I'm pretty sure the tin brake master is correct but not sure about the plastic tank cluch master
Can someone enlighten me
Thanks
Glenn

Author:  Bubbacluby [ Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

Plastic master cylinder is incorrect. They came in around 1970/1971

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Author:  AJ [ Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

For a 67 model it would have had tin brake and clutch master cylinders originally

Author:  gtogreen1969 [ Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

Here is the engine bay for a 1967 S. If your car is pre YKG2S2 3792 it would have also been fitted with the plastic extensions. The brake master should be Lockheed .7" and have a tall reservoir. The clutch master should be a Lockheed .75" and have a shorter reservoir.

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Author:  simonw [ Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

I had the same question today !
My 67 deluxe came with the same setup as yours , so obviously its been changed out along the way too.
My plastic tank is PBR and must be for the clutch ....cant remember which side I pulled it off !
This is what happens to the tin after 50 years :(
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Author:  glenndunn [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

Mine is 3688 I have never seen the plastic extensions befiore, never seen them is any of the mini sellers catalogues.
Where would I be able to get them

Author:  gtogreen1969 [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

glenndunn wrote:
Mine is 3688 I have never seen the plastic extensions befiore, never seen them is any of the mini sellers catalogues.
Where would I be able to get them
Here is one example https://minikingdomonline.com.au/produc ... with-seal/

Author:  timmy201 [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

I bought a new one recently, and found it was a slightly different shape to the older style ones. The old ones were parallel the whole way up, and the new one I bought was thinner above the thread. E.g.
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Author:  Bill B [ Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

Bubbacluby wrote:
Plastic master cylinder is incorrect. They came in around 1970/1971

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That is about right.
John Sneddon's book lists the change from tin tanks to plastic as August 1969, in early Mk2 production. That suggests that 300+ Mk2s had tin tanks.

Author:  ianscampbell [ Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

My Mk2, 1969 car 940, had the tall plastic clutch master cylinder & the original Mk1 type tin brake master cylinder, which I believe was correct for the era?

Author:  winabbey [ Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:30 pm ]
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ianscampbell wrote:
My Mk2, 1969 car 940, had the tall plastic clutch master cylinder & the original Mk1 type tin brake master cylinder, which I believe was correct for the era?

See this Service Liaison Letter.

Attachment:
SLL 52 p04 Master Cylinders.jpg

Author:  gtogreen1969 [ Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm ]
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winabbey wrote:
See this Service Liaison Letter.
Attachment:
SLL 52 p04 Master Cylinders.jpg



This may help date the clutch master cylinder change. Car 839 was fitted with tin master cylinders.

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YG2S4 839 1969 Bathurst 26C, Les Grose Graham Moore.jpg

Author:  crisonic [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

Many thanks for the Service Liasion Letter
It makes reference to "... and spacers are used to obtain pedal height" Can anyone tell me where these spaces are located and what thickness they are.

Author:  simonw [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

This suggests that my plastic reservoir replacement is inappropriate as my threads on the pedal box will be too short ... let me go measure them. Didn’t know there were 2 types of pedal boxes


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Author:  cgo [ Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Master cylinders

crisonic wrote:
Many thanks for the Service Liasion Letter
It makes reference to "... and spacers are used to obtain pedal height" Can anyone tell me where these spaces are located and what thickness they are.

These 2 spacers came with a car I'm rebuilding. They are 1/16" or 1.6mm thick. Both master cylinders are the plastic reservoir type and spacers are placed between cylinder body and the pedal box mounting point. Have no idea if they are original. I'm sure an expert will set this straight.
I also have a car with a metal brake master and a plastic reservoir clutch master which has metal spacer.

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