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Author:  manofaus [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:02 pm ]
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you could work out the mounts later, its just that I like to have as much clutter around me when I do this so that I know it will work. I hate doing jobs twice. Realistically it aint going to happen the first time, but fingers crossed.
Author:  JC [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:03 pm ]
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marcsvenson wrote:
haha it is a bit of a spider web hey lol that was prob the thing which suprised me the most haha
the rest looks possible to get my head round the other thing i was meant to ask you i think i saw that you moved your brake mc and clutch mc around will i need to do this also

what ecu did you go with


Assuming you use that shell you have the m/c's you have will suffice. I do not believe the twin line is entirely necessary. Your engineer would shed some light.

I got a LINK ecu.
Author:  Metalfab_101 [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:31 pm ]
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manofaus wrote:
the first thing I have to do is get the engine mounts.
the GTi mounts are not ideal, so I am sourcing others from the wreckers.

"Gearbox is Barina/Swift 90-94 gearbox mount
Rear eng is Ford Laser KC/KE 85-90 or Mazda 323 BF
87-89 part no MT8121
(You will have to press it out of it's mount & rotate the
rubber to get the load direction correct)
Front is Mazda 808 72-78 part no MT8135"
thats from Ron Bailey..
top bloke


Why are the GTi mounts not ideal???
Author:  manofaus [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:37 pm ]
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AFAIK they are expensive to replace. The front engine mount doesn't fit well in a Roundnose shell. I think that the rear gearbox mounts foul on the subframe crossmember and also the mount under the front of the gearbox (mk1) is pretty much useless IMO. BUT I am yet to install. That is what I can see from my motor and making measurements. Those listing of mounts are ones which I know work well. Thats not to say that you can't make the GTi ones work.
Author:  afh001 [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:17 pm ]
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Metalfab_101 wrote:
At least I picked a different green!!! :oops:

So where are your conversions at??? (marcsvenson & afh001)


Well, I'm still collecting parts.. So far I have an engine, ecu and wiring loom... I intend to make a subframe myself, sort of a cross between all the different ways i've now seen people use.

I want to try to make my conversion easily reversable, so if I want to go back to an a series (i'm not sure why.. :-) ) i always can..

My thoughts on the engine mounts is to utilise some of the tapped holes at the front and back of the block and mount it similar to the way there mounted in a vitara.. Then rig up something similar to the stabiliser bar in a mini, off the swift head or high up on the block to stop the engine rocking back and forth.. haven't thought of the gearbox mounts yet, any ideas?

Andrew
Author:  marcsvenson [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:27 pm ]
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what is everyone doing for there ecu just standard
i dont even think i have one atm havent really had a good look at what i have down there :shock:

but i think that will be one of the last things i need to worry about im thinking about once i get it all running and in taking it to a suzuki specialist for tune and chip maybe or aftermarket ecu

still a little undecided about the gearbox but i think with a set of 12s the ratio shouldnty be too unbearable on the open road i mean i am used to a 998 four speed ffs :P
Author:  manofaus [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:08 pm ]
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here are some pics of the mounts that i was told to use (they are cheap)

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Author:  marcsvenson [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:36 pm ]
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they look ok

do you guys know if there is a limit as to what size brakes you will need i mean is an engineer going to be looking for at least the 8.4inch discs for the gti convertion if so this throws 10inch wheels out the window though so too does the drive ratio with the suzuki box hmmm

how bad do 13inch wheels drive honestly i hear mixed replys
Author:  13secmini [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:53 pm ]
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my 13inch wheeled mini keeps up with 10inch wheeled minis in the corners at wakefield park easy. It is alot more bumpier then running the 10's on the street. Lot less tyre roll due to smaller side wall helps, but some LOW minis do need alittle cutting on front guards.

My engineer said any naturally aspirated conversion, 7.5inch discs are fine, anything turbo will need ventialted discs.
Author:  marcsvenson [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:59 pm ]
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ok excellent thanks i still cant decide i dont mind cutting the arches if need be
i have allways thought 10s and 13s for round noses look best


bumpier mnnmnm i dont really mind i would rather go bigger wheels then change the gbox to a barina i think sounds like a little trouble
Author:  manofaus [ Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:35 am ]
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I know for a fact that the RTA says that I should have for my conversion....
A cat.. bceause its unleaded, and a restrictor type filler neck for the tank...
(but some engineers don't worry as you can't buy leaded petrol anymore)
Brakes need to be of the same design (solid, vented or drums) as the donor vehicle.
So if the gti had vented discs then you are supposed to have vented discs.
If the donor vehcile that the brakes come from (assume you use a camira/honda/METRO) then if they were boosted in operation, then the should also be boosted in operation for your vehcie.
But being engineers these are guidelines.
thats why engineers will ask that you do a brake test (where they heat them up and do repeated stops) so they can compare it to the origional brakes for the vehicle (the gti)
Doing it this way means that they may not need boosting or solid rotors are ok even though they were origionally vented (in some cases)
As for no cat, I think they get around this because the gti motors are very good for the day (say mk1 86) for smog control (without cat fitted) so they should pass.
It should be noted that some engineers do not bend the rules (My engineer will bend some but not others) so they are all subjective to what they feel comfortable with.

I am pretty sure that a dual circuit master cylinder is a requirement for a gti transplant in all cases.
Author:  marcsvenson [ Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:03 pm ]
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thanks for that mate very helpfull

i am thinking vented 8.4s with dual circut and decent pad for the brakes

how tough are engineers as towards suspension i read somewhere that adjustable suspension was illegal so hi los are out which will be a pain
Author:  Metalfab_101 [ Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:28 pm ]
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marcsvenson wrote:
they look ok

do you guys know if there is a limit as to what size brakes you will need i mean is an engineer going to be looking for at least the 8.4inch discs for the gti convertion if so this throws 10inch wheels out the window though so too does the drive ratio with the suzuki box hmmm

how bad do 13inch wheels drive honestly i hear mixed replys


Animal in Toowoomba has had Honda accord disks blue plated. There are pics on here somewhere. I think he was using 12 or 13s on that vehicle. Disks were vented and about 9" diameter from memory.

This is what i'd be going with.
Author:  JC [ Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:32 pm ]
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marcsvenson wrote:
..............i read somewhere that adjustable suspension was illegal so hi los are out ........


........until it's registered. I've never heard of adjustabubble suspension being a problem with the fuzz.

JC
Author:  JC [ Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:37 pm ]
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Metalfab_101 wrote:
This is what i'd be going with.


Pffft. If you can get a hold of him.
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