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 Post subject: R56 07 Cooper S problems
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:01 pm 
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Can anyone give me any info on common problems with these cars

I have a friends car and when you go to start it the dash will fire up u press the button to start and it cranks fires and stalls and the windscreen wipers turn on then if you try to start it again it will only crank.

the other issue it timing chain is noisey when first started cold and does shutup when engine warms up I know that there is a commen problem with the chain but I would like a bit more info if I could on what needs replacing

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:10 pm 
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Hi,
I can only help with the timing chain issue
Our 2007 cooper s has had the timing chain tensioner replaced and eventually the timing chain and another tensioner. Car had only 55k on the engine and we were lucky that BMW agreed to pay for parts.
Total quote was $3500 :shock:
Engine is nice and quiet now
Started to use oil now, about 1litre every 5-6000km
But overall the car is still fun to drive :D

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:05 pm 
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I had my timing chain replaced for free :-) I printed out pages and pages from www.mini2.com regarding that issue. and they faxed it off to BMW and they approved it.. :-) But I think it was also underwarranty at the time.

Other issue I saw will be software or battery is getting stuffed.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:13 am 
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Hey

I worked for bmw for 8 years and what u are describing is the timing chain is stretched and making the engine out of time, making it hard to start and very noisey. We use to replace timing chain, guides and tensioner, after a while they changed the chain tentioner and made it longer to fix the problem.

Another problem is the high pressure fuel pump gives up and it wont start.

Another big one is rough running, they sometimes get alot of carbon build up behind the inlet valve and causing the valve not to seal properly. This is because of the direct injection sprays fuel straight into the cylinder and not in the intake, when its in the intake manifold the fuel cleans the valve as it goes into the cylinder

If u have any other problems just ask me


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:56 pm 
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what are is the chain like to replace are there tools that are required to do the job also do you do the repair in the car or take the engine out?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:59 pm 
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You do it in the car but u need the tool to lock the fly wheel and another tool to lock the camshafts in position.

I got it down to about 4 hours but there are a lot of things that u need to take off around drivers side of the engine to be able to undo the bolts that hold the chain guides in place


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:54 pm 
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Well, we've got 2 R56s. 1 a Cooper S and the other a JCW
The JCW has had 2 cam tensioners replaced and will get it done again before my extended warranty expires.
My daughters S has had the tensioner replaced too and I'll check it too before her extended warranty runs out.
As for the carbon build up, I can only agree that its a real problem. Or was until my service man John at BM Autowerks in Oakleigh Vic bought kit to fix it.

I can say that both our cars have been done and can report that both are back to brand new. Sensational result and cannot recommend any higher. No commercial either. Just a return to the smooth power and performance.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:20 pm 
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Is this the Chrysler engine or the early BMW engine considering it is a 2007 MINI. Isn't this when they changed engines

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:51 am 
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R56 has the BMW/Peugeot engine

The R50 had the Chrysler engine


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:08 am 
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Are the r56 still worth buying or are the r50 better to buy

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:03 pm 
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Personal preference is the R50/53 is better, I think that they are closer to the old mini

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:08 pm 
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I like our R56 Cooper S. It is fun to drive and the motor is nice and quiet now the timing chain is fixed

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:03 pm 
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The R56 is a nice small car but it drives like a normal small car, the earlier mini is just more fun and if you get the S you have the supercharger whine :twisted:

If any one is interested the electrical problem on the mini that I am talking about in the topic, turned out to be a relay in the fuse box that was mucking about simple fix but it took some finding

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:41 pm 
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Hi all.
Well my 2009 JCW is in at present getting the timing chain & tensioner bit done for the 2nd time. Had it done at 2 years old, 37,000k on warranty and it's just gone AGAIN. 4 years & 4 months old, 70,000k and it's just not good enough I say. This time they're offering to supply the parts, but I need to pay the labour which is just under $1000. This car replaced my earlier 2007 Cooper S, which had the same thing happen twice in 2 years, and the wifes Clubman S has had it done once just after the warranty expired so I had to pay for that one.
You'd think if they can put Hyundai's on the road for $15k with 5 year 100000k warranties that BMW could build a car that lasts a bit better.
So my summary to the dealer today was:
*6 years
*3 MINIS
*5 timing chain issues
*2 waterpump issues (factory recall)
*Oil Pipe to turbo failed & replaced (on JCW JUST OUT OF WARRANTY so $900)
*1 Head replaced (1st Cooper S, fixed on warranty but with 25000k on the clock & 2 timing chain issues was enough to make me trade it in)
*Numerous subframe & brake issues (1st Cooper S)
I'm really dissapointed. Drove my 1963 mini to work today which was fun, but I think it's time the MINI's got traded on something a bit more durable. Pitty, as they are such a fun car to drive, but I think it stinks that there is such an obvious on-going problem & they expect me to pay for it to be fixed over & over.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:46 pm 
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Hey guys, my sister in London has a 2006 MINI Cooper S and it has started to overheat. Are there any common causes? Head gasket, water pump, thermostat?v

Any tips so I can help her not get ripped off. She is a sitting duck for an untrustworthy service guy.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

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