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 Post subject: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:05 pm 
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Folks just been looking at updating my distributor to electronic unit. I search around and found plenty of old posts re 123 distributor, but nothing very current. Those that have fitted them are they still running fine? What coil do you run? Am I wasting my money - should I just buy a drop in module for my near new 45D? Any other options around $500 price?


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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:17 pm 
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The red modules work fine but you cannot alter the curve.
Speak to Lindsay at Peak Ignition. he is a member here as "lomin".

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
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I haven't got a 123 on a Mini but fitted one to my Mk2 Jag 6 years ago and it hasn't missed a beat.

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
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Another option if you want to investigate is the CSI distributor.
Swiftune sell a version with 16 different curves unique for them.

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:40 pm 
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murty wrote:
Another option if you want to investigate is the CSI distributor.
Swiftune sell a version with 16 different curves unique for them.


Very happy with mine, if that’s of any help at all. An immediate and noticeable difference on a warm 1275 with an abundance of drivability down low compared to the previous Lucas dizzy in an A+.

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:23 pm 
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Backing lindsay and peak ignition. Cheap and easy and it transformed my idle and acceleration.

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:30 pm 
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Thanks guys. Decided to talk with Lindsay at Peak and I ordered one of his. Gave him all the specs of my engine, and new dizzy arrived within a few days!

Just fitted it up today and took it for a decent run. First thing I noticed was start up, fired up easier for sure. Then running out of town through the traffic I could hardly believe I was in the same car. Engine so much smoother, nicer to drive even! Out on the highway was similar feeling -smoother feels little more responsive and maybe more torque - but certainly all with less fuss from the engine. Cruising on 110k/h I'm barely touching the throttle.This has got to be the best bang for buck mod I've ever done. I know engines can differ a lot, so maybe I just got lucky that given my build etc. this dizzy just works so well with it all. Anyway, as you can tell, I'm really pleased with it! And service from Lindsay was A+.


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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:23 pm 
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Had one on my supercharger setup, made tuning a breeze. Can’t fault them.


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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:46 pm 
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Hi, the 123 distributor is a nicely made product, reliable and if you think you know what curve your engine needs, and can analyse that with the aid of a dyno etc , then maybe its worth a try. The quality of spark is just a normal electronic one.
I would ask. How any mini or moke or sprite owners, or whatever make think they really know what curve their engine would run best at ? How much base timing ? How much maximum timing ? Is it different for an SU or a weber? When does the curve finish in revs , how to stop pinking in the 2000 - 3000 rpm range whilst still getting performance. Car companies have dozens of engineers taking years to get the tune correct.. this is a complex subject and takes years and experience to understand it. Tailor made distributors made by reputable distributor builder imho is the best way. Of course that is more expensive and there are not a lot in Australia. I have tried to find a cheaper good alternative, and I recently refused to buy a cheap overseas product to meet this market. The quality and consistency is just not good enough. And again imho if you can get long spark duration with your product you are into the best spark.
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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
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lomin wrote:
Hi, the 123 distributor is a nicely made product, reliable and if you think you know what curve your engine needs, and can analyse that with the aid of a dyno etc , then maybe its worth a try. The quality of spark is just a normal electronic one.
I would ask. How any mini or moke or sprite owners, or whatever make think they really know what curve their engine would run best at ? How much base timing ? How much maximum timing ? Is it different for an SU or a weber? When does the curve finish in revs , how to stop pinking in the 2000 - 3000 rpm range whilst still getting performance. Car companies have dozens of engineers taking years to get the tune correct.. this is a complex subject and takes years and experience to understand it. Tailor made distributors made by reputable distributor builder imho is the best way. Of course that is more expensive and there are not a lot in Australia. I have tried to find a cheaper good alternative, and I recently refused to buy a cheap overseas product to meet this market. The quality and consistency is just not good enough. And again imho if you can get long spark duration with your product you are into the best spark.
Cheers Lindsay Siebler


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There are plenty about with "the knowledge", one I have heard good reports about:

https://performanceignition.com.au/

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:20 am 
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Scorcher was the go to dissy for Mini racers, and I have had a couple of these and they are very good, but I think Peak Ignition may be setting a new standard now judging by the reactions of those who have installed it.

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:24 pm 
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Stuwey wrote:
murty wrote:
Another option if you want to investigate is the CSI distributor.
Swiftune sell a version with 16 different curves unique for them.


Very happy with mine, if that’s of any help at all. An immediate and noticeable difference on a warm 1275 with an abundance of drivability down low compared to the previous Lucas dizzy in an A+.


What curve setting did you opt for?

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:08 am 
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Cooper_Matrikon wrote:
Stuwey wrote:
murty wrote:
Another option if you want to investigate is the CSI distributor.
Swiftune sell a version with 16 different curves unique for them.


Very happy with mine, if that’s of any help at all. An immediate and noticeable difference on a warm 1275 with an abundance of drivability down low compared to the previous Lucas dizzy in an A+.


What curve setting did you opt for?


Swiftune told me they usually start with Curve3 on the dyno (10 degrees initial and total 28 degrees, so very conservative), even though I gave them my complete engine spec. I think I chose Curve12 from memory. This is exactly the problem Lindsay pointed out, if you don't optimise with a dyno, you are probably not getting the best performance, especially on a modified engine. If all you want is to match the factory distributor, then it's much easier since Swiftune give you all the Curve plots.

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 Post subject: Re: 123 electronic dizzy
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:39 am 
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Cooper_Matrikon wrote:
What curve setting did you opt for?


Pretty sure it’s #15 or #16 from memory. Car is currently in pieces.

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