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 Post subject: Which engine???
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:11 pm 
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4EFTE Turbo 100kw 1331cc 4cyl

Daihatsu
CB 100 78kw 993cc 3cyl

My girlfriend has a mini and is wanting to drag race it. I have looked at several engines and have come down to two types. I figure th Daihatsu would be easier to fit in due to being 3cyl but the Starlet produces more power. Any suggestions on which one to implant? or are there any other engines out there I should be looking at? Has anyone installed either of these and has info on them?

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:40 pm 
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A few people are doing G13B (Suzuki Swift GTi) engine conversions. I'm looking at doing one in the near future. Any of those would be a good choice.

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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:11 pm 
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13secmini has a Starlet turbo in his, and it's just about on the road.... :wink:

I'd like to do a 3 cyl Daihatsu, it's smaller and looks an easier fit. Might even fit in a roundnose?..One day... 8)

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 Post subject: Starlet and Suzuki
PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:20 pm 
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Yeah, I heard about the Suzuki engine but was a bit detered as I heard it is out of a rear wheel drive car. I didnt want to do to much mods to the chassis and was after a reasonabley easy transfer engine. I did hear that the gearbox out of a Suzuki, Mighty boy car may adapt to the Suzuki engine making it front wheel drive. If this is the case and it would fit into the mini with reasonable ease I would be keen to get the Suzuki. All in all I dont know jack about front wheel cars and how they operate, is the diff in the gearbox???
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Looking at those three engines, Suzuki, Starlet and Daihatsu I personally would put the extra time in to get the Starlet fitting. I did have a look at that sight in which MrEnforcer is installing the engine. It looked like a great deal of work needed to be done in order to move the engine over, also the torque steer... I would be doing the instalation myself and after adapting a Starion G63b block to a VR4 Galant 4G63 head to a 1975 Mitsubishi Lancer, I need a bit of a brake, lol......
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After all Im a bit scared about this mini I bought. Its for my girlfriend who wants to give me some competition. After driving this stock, pocket rocket, back to my house I'm F****** scared that she will kick my arse due to the superior handling.
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Poeeee, do you have any information in regards to the Suzuki implant?
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Mick


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G13B Suzuki had been done a lot. Out of a Suzuki Swift GTI, it's FWD so no probs apart from space... :wink:

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 Post subject: G13B
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2004 12:39 pm 
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Excellent, have to have a better look into the Suzuki engine.


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I was visiting a friends workshop recently and there was a round nose with a Suzi motor in it. Injected, turbo, full cage, AND.....airbrushed tiger stripe paint job.

Rather impressive. It was in there getting a blue slip - to be street registeted!


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Sounds like a good candidate for MINISHOW.

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does anyone know if any Oz Production car uses the C16SE Engine. In the Uk it comes out of a Vauxhall. Theres an article in the May issue of miniworld showing one of these installed into a round nose. They state the body requires no major modifications to install it.

Engine is a 1.6 L OHC unit. Power starts at 108 BHP, using standard injection system and stock ECU. and is capable of over 140 BHP with a few mods.

I know its not as much as people are getting out of the Starlet and Suzuki units, but if it requires less work and body mods it may be the way to go?


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i was under the impression vauxhall engine conversions only required a swap in subframe.. eg take urs out, fit the vauxhall onto the custom subframe and bolt it on..

BUT!.. i'm also under the impressoin it cost a few cool thousand to purchase the subframe, as it was 100% custom.


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850pvan wrote:
i was under the impression vauxhall engine conversions only required a swap in subframe.. eg take urs out, fit the vauxhall onto the custom subframe and bolt it on..

BUT!.. i'm also under the impressoin it cost a few cool thousand to purchase the subframe, as it was 100% custom.


im also quite sure thats how it works........similar to the honda conversion

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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:36 am 
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You can also get a Suzuki Swift 3 cyl. turbo in there also.

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GTI all the way baby :D 8) 8) :P :lol: :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:20 am 
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I know a fair bit about the charade engines you talk about...
no such thing as a CB100 though.. its just what some wreckers call it... its actually a CB-70 or CB-80

CB80 or CB70 = 3cyl twin-cam efi turbo out of an 87/88 G100 GTti charade... VERY hard to find, but UNREAL motor.. good for easy 100+kw with a few mods.

CB60 = 3cyl carbie turbo out of a G11 or G100 CTX charade... easy mods bring this one up to about 80kw

CB23 = 3cyl carbie NON-turbo out of a G11 or G100 charade... most models. Good for just under 40kw

other than that.... there are the HC-E and HD-E motors... out of charade 4cyl efi 1.3 and applause/feroza 1.6L
both exactly the same physical size, and are infact interchangeable (looking at a 100kw 1.6 going into my charade sometime later this year)

and then there are the "other" daihatsu engines... like the newer turbo's out of mira's and stuff like that.

for more info on daihatsu engines.. ask at http://bbs.daihard.org
or more spec info = http://dairally.net/daihard/chas/Compre ... etails.htm

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:22 am 
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haha tzi u charade geek :P

all jokes, there's love there :wink:


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