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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:47 pm 
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NOT850 wrote:
I'm looking for help with my 1098 build for my mini K. I've got a 1098 complete engine as my basis.

12G295 head with 33mm inlet and 26.4mm exhaust valves
Twin HS2s
Nissan Pulsar electronic distributor
RE266ss camshaft
Compression ratio between 9.5-10:1
Fully balanced bottom end
+40 though
Maniflow freeflow exhaust manifold
RC40 exhaust system
3.1 diff.

I'm after something that is lively and fun to drive. Ideally around the 70hp and 70ftlb of torque would be nice at the flywheel.

Would this setup achieve close to those figures.

From the engine build you have described it sounds similar to my deluxe engine. From what I can make out my engine produces great torque and is a lively motor, it starts to fade compared to a STD Cooper S around 3300 as bigger motor has longer legs but saying that I really need to look into better ignition solutions than the std dizzy with two light springs I have.

If your motor turns out well I don't think you will be sorry. Mine is a great little road motor, at least in my opinion anyway :)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:55 pm 
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Thanks for the input Rusty. I read your build thread on your Deluxe and it gave me a bit of inspiration to make a start on my Mini. All I'm after is a good road engine. The only time my Mini will see a track is when it drives passed it. I'm hoping to get the Pulsar distributor regraphed when the engine is complete.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:06 pm 
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GR wrote:
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Torque is my main aim for the engine. Nearly everyone says that the 1098 shouldn't be revved over 6000rpm.



Hi Not850
The problem with the rumour about not revving 1100 past 6000 RPM was started by David Visard when he wrote in his book and put the fear of god in every body,ask him how much testing and development he has done with the 1100 and you'll find very little.
I'v been building these motors for a long time and I have NEVER broken one yet,but I have broken 998 cranks, the problem is people tell how they have broken or cracked an 1100 crank but never seem to mention when they have broken a 998 crank.
We run 1100 cranks to 8000 rpm in a lot of engines be it mini's, sprites or open wheeler race cars, like any thing put it together right and it will be reliable, if you are going to abuse your engine you will break it no mater what motor it is be it an 850 998 1100 or cooper s, just ask around about how many people have broken or cracked Cooper S and i'll bet there is more "s" cranks broken than 1100, and yet they have a shorter stroke and bigger mains giving it more over lap.
The thing with a mini is if you are going to make a performance engine be it a fast road car or a race car the lighter the flywheel the better of you are, on my fast road cars I like to use the MINI SPARES ultra light one with the light backing plate, and no I don't find it to light on the road, the thing that does a lot of damage is on and off the throttle at high RPM resulting in the crank twisting back and forth, hence this is where the light fly wheel helps.
These little 1100 are a great little motor don't be afraid to build one and give it a buzz.

If you are attending the Mini Kingdom Online show & shine on the 27Th you can check the flywheel & back plate
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:40 pm 
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I'm planning a similar engine for my car, 1098, twin HS2, RE266s, etc.

In regards to the distributor and the advance curve you can also get an electronic advance module like the Accuspark blackbox. You can modify your advance and add in a rev limiter too
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:33 pm 
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Thanks for the info GR.

While I am still doing bodywork on my Deluxe at the moment there is an 1100 sitting in the corner waiting patiently.
It seems to be the popular formula and I also plan a "Project Small Bore" but with an RE266SS cam and better rockers, maybe just some offset bushes or better version like Dr Mini did.
I suppose I had better add with Ultralight flywheel.
I had also planned a redline of 6000 rpm, but maybe with the flywheel 6500 ?

We have all read the 1100 vs 1275 debates and I see the 1100 as a good bit of fun and learning as this is my first Mini and will only be my second engine rebuild.

Your articles are very good for an enthusiast to guide them to putting together a fun road engine on a budget with the satisfaction of being able to do it yourself, well with the support of a good machine shop.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:26 am 
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I've just got to finish the head off and then work out the cc of the chambers and then work out what pistons/overbore that I need to run to get the compression ration somewhere between 9.5 and 10:1. I'll look at the different types of rockers that I have at home, from what I've read the pressed steel ones seem to be the most consistant of the factory rockers. My budget doesn't stretch far enough for a set of 1.3 rockers at the moment. Especially now that GR stated that he uses the ultra light flywheel as something that he uses on all fast road spec small bores.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:18 pm 
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With this build I have in mind can anyone tell me if it is worth it upgrading the gear set in the rod change gearbox to the close ratio clubman GT ratios?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:15 pm 
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I think it is worth keeping a stock wide ratio box and fitting a taller diff ratio.
That was you can still take off in 1st gear on a hill and you have less revs at freeway speed.

I feel that on road cars if you fit a close ratio box you either compromise 1st gear or 4th gear and never get the full advantage of the increased power of the car.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:25 am 
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Thanks Morris1100. I have the 3.1 diff for the rod change gearbox so I might spend that money in other places and not the close ratio gear set.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:36 am 
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I have Cooper S diff ratio in my std 3 synchro box and for a road car it is good. Being a motor that produces good low down power is has no problems.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:54 pm 
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I would like to know what other people's 1098 builds are. I would find it interesting to see if it is worth keeping the 295 head or selling it on to use the money for a GR built 202 head.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:45 pm 
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I am doing similar to what you have described in you original engine description, I am having a 202 head done at GR at present (I hope) and the block will .060 along with the 266 camshaft. The lightened flywheel is something I will be looking at along with a number of other of the recommendations that have been mentioned, possibly the black box, have not gone into that much as yet and will look at the gear box and associated items when we get to that area. Like you I am just looking for something that will get up hills without having to flog it too much.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:43 pm 
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I've got a 1275 at home as well with a large valve head that is fully rebuilt. Don't know if I should rebuild the bottom end with the 266ss cam or sell that to finance the 1098 build.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:18 pm 
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NOT850 wrote:
I'm looking for help with my 1098 build for my mini K. I've got a 1098 complete engine as my basis.

12G295 head with 33mm inlet and 26.4mm exhaust valves
Twin HS2s
Nissan Pulsar electronic distributor
RE266ss camshaft
Compression ratio between 9.5-10:1
Fully balanced bottom end
+40 though
Maniflow freeflow exhaust manifold
RC40 exhaust system
3.1 diff.

I'm after something that is lively and fun to drive. Ideally around the 70hp and 70ftlb of torque would be nice at the flywheel.

Would this setup achieve close to those figures.


In my internet searching, I came across these guys, and thought of your build... has anyone thoughts on their stuff???
http://miniandmokeworld.com.au/cars_and ... peciality/
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:19 pm 
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I've just looked at their website. It would be interesting to see what there figures are for the sports 1100. I've read on this forum that they now use the RE266ss cam in this engine and are getting good results.


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