Ausmini
It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:00 pm

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 6:10 am 
Offline
1275cc
1275cc
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:19 pm
Posts: 4335
Location: Wollongong, NSW
The old RTA document said emissions applied to the car or engine, which ever was newer. I can't see that in the current document but I'll have another look around.

The old document did also say you couldn't fit an old engine into a newer car.

Edit old document only referred to post 1972 : http://www.shoeys.com/docs/vsi06.pdf
Quote:
Emission standards for replacement engines
1972 and later model vehicles with substitute engines must meet the intent of the later of the Australian Design Rules applicable to either:
a) The original vehicle; or
b) The substitute engine.
To ensure continued compliance with emission standards, any replacement engine should come from a vehicle which is subject to the same or more stringent emission control requirements. An alternative is for an earlier engine to be upgraded during reconditioning to more recent engine specifications. All anti-pollution devices should be fitted and functional.
Vehicles manufactured prior to noise and/or exhaust emissions related ADRs must meet certain minimum noise and emission requirements if the engine modification is to such an extent as to require certification by an engineering signatory.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 9:33 am 
Offline
848cc
848cc

Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:31 pm
Posts: 239
timmy201 wrote:
Edit old document only referred to post 1972



Perfect bit of info there - totally relevant to both my 74 and their pre 72!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:52 pm 
Offline
1098cc
1098cc

Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:23 am
Posts: 1488
Location: Armidale, NSW
The advice I received was from the RMS staff at the emissions testing facility at Botany (it's their job to know and enforce the regulations) I asked if they could give me a copy of the relevant parts of the new (currently active) standards

Here is the relevant section(underlined sections by RMS staff):

Quote:
Section LA Engines
:
3.1.2 Alternative Replacement Engines for Pre-1986 Passenger Vehicles

Because of the difficulty in identifying the year of manufacture of some replacement engines or the unavailability of replacement emission control equipment for ADR 27 engines, it is recommended that a replacement engine designed for use with unleaded fueland complying with ADR 37 be used where possible. Where this is impractical the following alternative is acceptable for replacement engines for pre-1986 passenger vehicles:
  • Convert the replacement engine to run on unleaded fuel (now a necessity);
  • Fit new catalytic converter(s) where appropriate;
  • Fit unleaded fuel filler with flap (optional);
  • Operate the vehicle on unleaded fuel; and
  • Ensure the engine is well maintained - alternatively overhaul and retune the engine.
Version 2.0 1 January 2011.........Page 14/LA41


The above seems quite reasonable to me, because it is only 'recommended' to fit an engine complying with ADR 37 and catalytic converters are required to be fitted 'where appropriate' there is nothing enforceable to my mind and this was the line taken by the RMS staff... The interpretation of where appropriate is reasonably open but may include issues of space, ECU (able to closed loop), availability of emissions equipment etc etc but will depend on your engineer.

_________________
---
Roads need more corners
A Deluxe(CG13DE), 2 Clubbies(998 and 1275) and 2 Morris 1100Ss


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

© 2016 Ausmini. All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.