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 Post subject: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:28 pm 
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I have bracket to lift an engine on the tilt when putting in a d out of car amd needing to clear the diff.
But for a straight lift it is a pain on the angle so what brackets and where etc do you guys hoist just for moving around. I have used rope and other heath robinson ideas but there must be an easy, safe and secure way.

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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:46 pm 
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I use a homemade bracket that picks up the 2 longer studs on the rocker assembly, using the tube nuts from the rocker cover. If the head isn't on the block, any 2 head studs can be used. Good for separating/assembling block to gearbox.


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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:24 pm 
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Thanks Bill, I had to look twice before I realised you had just sat it there for the photo, DOH.
Obviously they are strong enough as you use them but I would not have thought so. I will give it go.

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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:59 pm 
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Steam wrote:
Thanks Bill, I had to look twice before I realised you had just sat it there for the photo, DOH.
Obviously they are strong enough as you use them but I would not have thought so. I will give it go.


My father was a boilermaker and made this - the family joke was that everything he made was over-engineered.
I seem to remember he said the welds were actually silver soldered, and I have always wondered if that would be strong enough, but I have been using that bracket and the other triangular one he also made, since the 1970s.


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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:23 pm 
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Thanks Bill, do you leave the rocker cover on or remove it before using bracket?

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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:37 pm 
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The factory used loops on the rocker cover studs to lift the engine

Video of the UK factory:
https://youtu.be/o9g6FWriz-g


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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:25 am 
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Steam wrote:
Thanks Bill, do you leave the rocker cover on or remove it before using bracket?


Usually the rocker cover is already off if the motor is being removed, or hasn't been put on yet if the motor is going back together.
Timmy's photo shows the factory left the cover on but it might get scratched if I tried it that way!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:52 pm 
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I feel shabby saying so, but I slip a chain link under the head bolts/nuts, with a spreading washer over the top.

I did have a lifting bracket, but I lost it about 13 years ago, so I've been doing this forever since.

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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:43 pm 
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Don't feel bad Mick, thats how I did it for years before I welded up a bracket. Actually I did similar this evening using the clutch end steady bolt hole and the diagonally opposite manifold bolt which gave a fairly level lift.
I now have time to think on the best bracket to suit my needs. Having seen Bill's and also looking at the factory manual which shows a different take on the same principle and also a sykes pickavant bracket, something along those lines. Not trying to reinvent the wheel but I am not convinced about lifting with the rocker studs.

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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:52 pm 
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I know the factory lifted them by the rocker studs but it just never seems good enough to me either.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:10 pm 
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Please be aware that although the factory used 18GA019 lifting bracket on the rocker pedestal studs, the outer studs (long) are of a different material specification (heat treatment) than the inner (short) studs. I would not use this method if I were not confident that the studs were genuine, and it would be a great risk in my opinion to use this method if the studs have been replaced by supposed replacement parts being sold currently by mini outlets.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:54 pm 
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Just slightly off top.

Is it OK to remove & install to engine & gearbox with the radiator attached provided the radiator core is protected?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:13 pm 
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Radiator on is much easier than trying to install the radiator once the engine is in

I also prefer the Sykes type engine bracket if you have the budget for it


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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:42 pm 
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I usually fit rhe rad with the engine out if possible so all ok with rad fitted. You just have to be a bit more vigilant keeping a close eye on the rad end.
Timmy, that is the sykes pickavant I referenced in an earlier post. Looks like a good bracket.

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 Post subject: Re: Hoisting the engine.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:10 pm 
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I usually just get some lifting straps and sling them around the engine. One around the flywheel cover and the other just under the speedo extension of the gearbox. Pretty quick and no scratches. Also way over engineered given that the straps that fit are rated to about 1000kgs.

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