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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:58 pm 
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Hey All,
I am wanting to install a rover wiper motor into my clubman. I hve spent time looking into this and trying to work out which clubman wires go to the rover motor but I am a bit dense. Currently it has a two speed wiper motor with the three screw base. I am swapping this for a rover model with the strap to hold it down. I have purchased the loom extension on minispares.
The Rover loom has:
Red Green trace
Green solid
Brown Green trace
black
and Blue Green.

The clubbie has (refer to picture)
A = Red And Green Trace
B = Blue and green trace
C = Green
D = Black and Green Trace.
Note, These Wiper Motors Must Have an earth wire from Wiper Motor To Body.

What I am wanting to know is where the clubman wires should plug into on the rover wiper motor.

Do I need a rover steering column (the arms) or can my two speed switch handle this as job?

Sorry for the dumbness and thanks for your help.

DC




Thanks for in advance for your help.

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David


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:21 am 
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The title to your thread says Starter Motor, not Wiper Motor! :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:22 am 
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Thanks Brett,

I am a space cadet sometimes!!!


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Hey Guys,
I think I have found info on the wiper motor wires for a rover wiper motor. Does anyone know what the different wires for the clubman motor actually do. This is for a two speed parking wiper motor out of a clubman.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:36 pm 
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I found a cheap rover column with all the goodies that I might just chuck in and wire up. This way I can follow the diagram a rover to wire this up and I will get the added bonus of stalks for lights and wipers. I also have no horn as the stalk horn on the clubbie is broken so will need replacing. Has anyone done this before here? Is it easy or hard? Am I on crack.

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The more mods you do at once, the harder it gets...

The clubman wiring for the wiper goes :

- green is accessory power (+12V while ign on)
- black will be earth/ground
- red/green is high speed I think
- the remaining wire will be the other speed

Not sure how this maps to a Rover wiper

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The 2 motors work differently. The Oz made (round) 1 & 2 speed motors have dynamic braking when switched off, I believe the Rover ones don't (if same as previous UK ones).
So, the switches may be different internally, you need a pinout diagram for each to check.

If you get things wired wrong, it's easy to let the Lucas smoke out of the wires...

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Hey Doc and Vulcanbb18,

So clubman is

- green is accessory power (+12V while ign on)
- black will be earth/ground
- red/green is high speed I think
- the remaining wire will be the other speed



And rover seems to be:
Red Green Trace=Low speed feed in
Blue Green Trace=High Speed feed in
Black=Earth
Brown Green Trace=Park feed in
Green=Permanent

Maybe I can just connect up low speed, high speed, earth and permanent feed.

Won't worry about the park or intermittent and wil get this thing going so I can take it for a spin. Is that crazy or could that work?

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The earth wire on a Clubby switch is part of the dynamic braking circuit, when you switch off and the wipers are almost parked, a brush on the slip ring (under motor) shorts the motor's windings to earth via that wire.
I would remove it before playing with the Rover motor.. you are liable to short something out.

There is a good thread somewhere in here about 2 speed Clubby motor wiring, with switch diagrams- I'll try and find it.
[edit] here it is-
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... peed+wiper

ps. why not save all this grief and just use a Clubby motor instead?? :lol:

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Hi doc,

That thread is a good one. I had skimmed it before but hadn't seen the clubbie switch diagram. That us a keeper. Just read it all and feel wiser

Can you explain to us playing at home how you setup your bench test? Do you use a car battery etc?

Puting this link in about wipers for safe keeping

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/martinwhistler/wiper.pdf

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No battery needed, I use my 10A battery charger as a power supply.
Otherwise, just use jumper leads off your car battery. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:00 am 
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I've got Rover stalks powering a clubby motor mounted in my Moke. It was a pig to get working. Park is not working, but I gave up on that one.

If you use a Rover column and motor and wire it as per rover diagrams you should be okay. It's only when you mix and match that you run into trouble.

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Hey Guys,

Doc, I have one of those and will give that a burl on the weekend.

I agree with you Bnicho. The rover column is a good idea. I have found a whole column, stalks, ignition barrell and plastic shroud for 250. I think that is pretty good value if you ask me. If it all works that is :)

I will keep you all posted on it.


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