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TheMiniMan Crazed


Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 7187 Location: Brisbania
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:35 pm Post subject: Turbo Twinky moke rip-down & check |
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well,,, as it happens,,, the old turbo twinky moke that we did a few years ago has had a moment... there was a little lack of "checking the oil level" & it`s done the turbo in (Naughty Michael)
sooo,,, while it was here i decided to rip the engine out & rip it apart for a little bo-peep inside her
& to my amazement there was absolutely nothing wrong with the thing
it was all good,,, no Sh!t... & yep i`m shocked too ,,, for an engine that`s been running around for quite a few years with over 160hp on tap,,, & been used hard & abused even harder, not to have anything wrong with it,,, """especially after it`s been run low on oil""" just has me a little choofed to say the least
this thing really has had a hammering
so,,, yeah, i`m quite the happy chappy
i`ve taken a video of the internals immediately after we stripped it down & i also have my trusty witness Archie to back this up if anyone wants to have a go
so,,, just for the sake of it & making it all nice again i`ve thrown a set of rings & bearings, gaskets & seals & an oil-pump at it & chucked her all back together
it will be going back in the hole this week & a we have a new turbo that is in the process of clocking & fitting onto it as the old one went kaput
we will double check the tune (simple ign timing & fuel check & adjust) & it should be all good to go again
Pretty happy i am  _________________ Lazy-Good-For-Nothing-Smart-Arse-Know-It-All-Back-Yard-Mini-Mechanic
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willy mattress ninja

Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 13321 Location: ADL
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I DON'T BELIEVE YOU!
(I do, I just want to see the video)
Great to hear another strong ReadSpeed A-series going strong  _________________ http://www.facebook.com/willgormlyphotography |
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kirby 998cc


Joined: 20 Aug 2009 Posts: 586 Location: Geelong, Vic. Mini capitial of aus
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| What sort of oil was being used to handle a turbo and keep it alive despite lack of oil. Not trying to start something just curious. |
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69k1100 848cc

Joined: 04 Sep 2011 Posts: 174 Location: S.A
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| That's the point, the turbo gave in before the engine did. Mabey the level dipped below the oil feed for the turbo. A second of 0psi at the turbo will ruin it. |
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awdmoke Ambitious, but rubbish!

Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 11810 Location: Safety Bay | Collie, WA
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Oil feed for the turbo is the same as for the rest of the bearings in the engine - the oil pump. That said, with the high RPM of the turbo, the bearings would be shot much faster than at the big end. _________________ Too many cars, and too little time. |
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TheMiniMan Crazed


Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 7187 Location: Brisbania
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i was really worried about the bearings , of course, & that`s why i stripped it down really,,, not just a curiosity thing but a precautionary thing mainly
& i`ve no idea what oil he used but i`ll ask him tomorow
the turbo will be re-built (probly go onto one of my engines) so it wasn`t "Totally" rooted
edit--> the bearings did show obvious signs of "usage" so it was happy to accept new bearings, of course, i wouldn`t have put them back in, but they could have stayed in there a while longer too, if you know what i mean, so it`s just a std issue freshen up & hope all will be well,,, crossing fingers  _________________ Lazy-Good-For-Nothing-Smart-Arse-Know-It-All-Back-Yard-Mini-Mechanic
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Morris 1100 Causing or creating vexation
Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 18026
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| How did the pistons look? Any signs of detonation or overheating? |
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TheMiniMan Crazed


Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 7187 Location: Brisbania
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Morris 1100 wrote: | | How did the pistons look? Any signs of detonation or overheating? |
none, zero, ziltch, we learnt that part the hard way already
there was absolutely no carbon past the first ring, on any of em, all the rings look sweet-as under a magnifying glass, near new looking pistons, just lovely coloured
it`s all back together & back in the moke now, & hope to fire her back up again late in the week maybe, cross fingers _________________ Lazy-Good-For-Nothing-Smart-Arse-Know-It-All-Back-Yard-Mini-Mechanic
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Morris 1100 Causing or creating vexation
Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 18026
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like it was working very well. Congrats!
Maybe an accumulator on the turbo oil supply? (So that the turbo will keep spinning while the main bearings are starving! )
The last turbo I was involved with had an oil accumulator on the supply line. If the motor suddenly stopped the oil would keep feeding for a minute or two. |
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TheMiniMan Crazed


Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 7187 Location: Brisbania
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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ok we got it running now...& yes it sounds all sweet & yummy too
problem is that i`m off on 2 weeks holiday in Byron bay now so no time to tune & tweek things
& the video we took of the engine being ripped apart has been wiped by the optus phone repair company ;-( Really bummed because that wasn`t the only video & we also lost a whole pile of photos of the work that we`d been doing on plenty of other customers cars too,,, so not very happy with samsung S2 phones or Optus at the moment
so ,,, have a good time while i`m away, no bickering & see you all when i`m back
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