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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:59 pm 
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I'm restoring a 10/1970 MK II S and would like to keep the engine bay components as close to original as possible (e.g. the positioning and path of the brake lines to/from the VH44 servo). Some Cooper S's had a small clip that tied the two lines together for rigidity but I don't know if this was limited to certain models.
Can anyone point me to a good photo of the engine bay of an original Oz made 69 or 70 S? I've checked some of the usual Mini publications without success.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:32 pm 
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As far as i know Mk 2's fitted with the VH44 booster never had the brake pipe bracket, only Mk1's had them.

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come to the Mini Experience day out in december, and you're likely to see 3 exceptionally accurate engine bay restorations.... sickening attention to detail. Also, talk to Steven Dalton in the vic club, he's renowned as one of the most knowledgeable Cooper S people in the country - I'm too scared to let him anywhere near my car!

this was at Watto's day out last year... note the little tags on the the loom, hand made repros of what was apparently there originally

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also, this car has never been restored... 1 owner and 80,000 miles. The owner put the 1 1/2"s on in the '70's, the voltage regluator karked it and was replaced with the one you see, and the engine has been rebuilt.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:45 pm 
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Thanks for the contribution, and I plan to be at TME Day Out.

The Mini factory really made life interesting for we enthisiasts. You may have seen my other Chat topic on MK II S Rocker Covers which got a couple of differing answers on the correct labels to use. I note the 'original' motor photo (above) is different again (just Hot Run Tested on the front section, nothing on the rear)!
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I have posted a couple of pics for your reference, Doug. (thanks to Mike Byron for his guidance on how to post images)
As this is the only Mini I have ever been involved with (family owned since '76) then I can only comment of what was an original and unmolested 1969 model. I have noticed that the brake pipe configuration depends on the master cylinder and booster types. Early MK2's without ID plates ('69 modesl) had Lockheed Booster- same as MK1 S's and used tin tank brake master and plastic tank clutch master (girlock cylinder - Aussie made - with Lockeed plastic tank) brake pipe routing was different to Pommy MK1's as 69 MK2's don't have fresh air tube for heater to make pipe route up along inner RH fender (not sure about Aussie MK 1's ). The 2 brake pipes from booster to brake master also have copper finish on flare tube nuts and were joined with clamp and 2 rubber insulators, where as all of the others have gold zinc flare tube nuts - maybe different supplier for these pipes? All the 1970 models (like yours) I have seen have VH44 PBR booster and totally different pipe routing / booster hose length / master cylinder type - should be 2 plastic tank type, and I wouldn't be suprised if the later MK2 1971's have alloy cylinder with PBR markings. Just my two cents worth, and not necessarily totally correct, look forward to catching up with everyone at Watto's Big Day Out - I have even convinced my Japanese Manager to bring his recently aquired Pommy 1964 MK1 1275 Austin Cooper S (Tartan Red / Black roof)
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Spent 1981 - 1999 in my Dads shed
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Repainted, ready for engine
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Finished with engine installed - September 2006
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Plastic Clamp is just to hold new Booster Hose until the shape "sets"
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Crystal White roof (still original paint) GTO Green - body had a quick "blow over" in 1980 to cover where paint had rubbed through (bonnet and tops of guards and top of bootlid)
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I had to show my interior light 'cause they are so hard to find now
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New old stock brake hoses recently aquired
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Plastic hose is for radiator overflow
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Gold Zincing rear helper springs was fun!
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Suprised my Dad during a visit with the newly restored S - shown with Superlite 12's fitted
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Reversed STD S rims with Dunlop 165/70
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Original seat belts (now have new ones - refer lower)
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Std S rims with Gold plated belted Aquajets
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A few guys have asked what colour / shape original carpet was...
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New seat belts - new original style webbing and re-plated fittings - PM me for details of the perfectionist who does them......
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My favourite shot when I tried to kill Dad and Watto at Shannons Mini Conquers The Mountain - Bathurst 2006 Go to YOUTUBE for in-car video of our "parade" lap around Bathurst( - type in "Mini Conquers The Mountain") (photo is copyright of Watto)

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Don't normal like Green but that looks Great
Brilliant Condition

How do we all seem to chip the top of the Gear stick :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:52 pm 
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Gday Gaf,
I had a bit of heater hose around the shift lever shaft to stop the bldy annoying rattle at 65 mph - I saw it on the works rally cars and thought what a good idea. Then I discovered a missing exhaust mount that goes onto the remote housing, after a few prototype parts, the mount was made and voila!! no more shift lever ratle noise!! So I removed the heater hose which took paint off - but I did take the lever out and paint it today..... :roll:
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Funny how you painted it today.

Its just most i see have the same markes, As Our's Does and the three spare

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Great looking S, nice green too. Top Stuff


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:25 pm 
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Gavin,
Great pictures, showing the placement of items which should help many of us get our rare cars back to the way they really should be (in my opinion). I have most of the factory and aftermarket Workshop Manuals, plus factory parts manuals (PUB 1056M for OZ and AKD3509/3510 for UK) but they don't elaborate on exact positioning of some parts.
When I saw the Lockheed booster in the photo I immediately thought "this is a MK I", but your deep knowledge has corrected me on that - thank you. I recently purchased one of the brake tube holding brackets but won't be needing it now based on what I've read in this Forum as I have a reco VH44 booster for my 10/70 S.
A big thank you to the serious Mini enthusiasts who are happy to share their knowledge with others. I've just retired from work and purchased my MK II S as a present to myself. It will go through a gradual restoration to bring it back to as original as possible (with the exception of safety items such as seat belts). Brings back fond memories of the new S I purchased from Kellow Falkiner in Russell Street, Melbourne (now a chinese restaurant) back in 1969.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:19 pm 
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Winabbey,
Congratulation on your retirement - I've only got 25 years to go - mind you by then we will all be working until we are 70, so maybe 30 years to go!.
Regarding your set belts - I have recently had mine rebuilt by an absolute perfectionist, who uses the original webbing and correct strength thread, sewn in the original patterns. He has made heaps for Falcon GT and Monaro's - and those guys can be some of the most fussy people around. They look fantastic and if I didn't tell anyone that they had been reco'd then you'd never know that they are sold as "just for display only" :wink: :wink:
PM me with your email address if you want to see the results.
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Gavin, PM sent about those seatbelts!!! f*ckin beauty!!

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