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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:51 pm 
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Have you checked the timing it could be out which might be part of the problem :?:

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That's it i've **** had it with moke fuel tanks.

**** stupid bolts in plate at the bottom, half of them are nuts secured into what seems to be loose bolts. How the hell do you unscrew bolts from a plate when the nuts at the top are just loose ones?!

That and the drain nut at the bottom of the tank is utterly jammed close. I've tried hitting it, kicking it, NOTHING seems to be able to budge it.

fuel tanks can goto hell.


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You couldn't syphon the fuel out could you :?:

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you silly bugger
youve got a freaking hole 6 inches in diameter dont tell me you didnt think of sticking a hose down there and suck
the tank is flat at the bottom so anywhere along the bottom of the tank you see
is the bottom and you will empty it out

just dont flick a match to see if youve reached the bottom :shock:

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Yeah I thought about that. Eventually found a hose long enough. Put in LRP and took it for a spin around the block with the throttle screw a bit in and it still sputtered around like an asthma patient.

Must've been pretty loud, had a neighbour come over when I drove into the driveway. He reckon is sounded like the timing was out and offered to help me on Saturday morning with it...

So for now it's sitting useless in the driveway, I guess we'll see if that fixes it :(.

As for me i'm over cars for a few days. I stink of petrol and oil.. and my hands are black; into the shower for me.

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Um... if it's huffing back thru the carb rhythmically, a valve isn't seating. When did you last adjust the valves? Maybe an inlet is too tight... :wink:
Or it might be sticking in the guide....

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Hasn/t been done since I got the engine a year and a half ago. Just been reading up on valve stuff in the manuals I own. I think i'm starting to get in over my head.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:49 pm 
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Would air be coming out of the spark sockets strongly if there was a problem with the valves though?

Going by the mini books i've got i've been reading up on timing. Still not getting it, I took of the rocker cover today and opened up the flywheel cover access hole and had a peek with a mirror.

Couldn't see anything (??) I could make out a faint line marking, but that was about it. Wondering if there's an odd angle I need to hold the mirror at (the anti pollution crap was a bit inthe way, if I removed that I guess I could get a longer angle with the mirror). Also is light a problem? I did it in the sunlight, wondering if a pointed lamp might help (have to go buy a torch else i'd have tried it).

Then there's the setting. After adjusting the valve clearance in 1, and turning the motor clockwise (is there any easier way then just spinning the fan belt?) till 1 is just about to go down, apparently my reading through the rocker cover is supposed to read 5deg.

Now is it possible that my engine doesn't have the markings? Book says that pre74 engines have no figures. Eng number is 99H791P113162. How much does a timing light cost roughly and will it make my life a hell of a lot easier working out wtf i'm doing? :).


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:52 pm 
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I can't remember but I think a timing light is about 50 -100 bucks (as I say I can't remember)

Timing lights are worthwhile getting if you can or even better if you can borrow one.

Staticly timing can mean that your timing is a fair way out, I think someone else here had experience of how far out a staticly timed motor can be.

Also the timing light gave me a little bit of an indication that the dizzy was not what it should be, ie the timing would vary alot as I was trying to time the engine (something like 5 - 7 degrees if I remember rightly) so I replaced that dizzy with the pulsar one :wink: :D

If it has good compression then I am guessing it is probably not a problem with valves sealing but you are testing this at low revs (just flicking the starter over right) so maybe the spring has time to seal a faulty valve and at revs it doesn't :?: :?

It is alot easier to see the timing marks when you are looking at them with a timing light, if you can't see them try changing the angle of the mirror (but I guess you did this already ) :oops:

Hope this helps

PS: I wouldn't touch the timing until you get a timing light and can work out what you are doing if you loose your original timing setting then it can be pretty hard to get the engine going again. (if you do adjust it by ear etc make sure you mark where it was orginally so that you can go back to that point)

Oh and if you are adjusting your timing make sure that it is not running low on fuel :lol: when doing the timing on my clubby I didn't realize it was so low and was trying to adjust the timing to compensate for it starving for fuel :lol: and wondering why it was still running like SH$T :oops: :oops: :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:17 pm 
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Got petrol in there, put 10l in last night.

Thx, helps a bit. Looks like I'm up for a light thing then if I want to do anything myself.

So...annoying.

a. didn't want to spend any mor emoney on the moke till the clubby was my main car.

b. having uni holidays, all this free time during and not being able to work on the car cause I don't have the equip.

c. not having a **** car.

r'ARGHIUHHHHHHHHH.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:51 pm 
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Well just got back from nextdoor. Car is running great now whoopee!

We did the timing and other minor things.

Apparently I had the leads around the wrong way :oops:.

Rotor goes anti clockwise.

Rotor goes anti clockwise.

Rotor goes anti clockwise.

Now I can get back to the clubbie yay!

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Shard wrote:
Apparently I had the leads around the wrong way :oops:.


ahhh The Old Leads-around-the-wrong-way

gets me all the time

i should have known, was playing with my dissy the other week and also had them round the old way
you didnt tell us you played with your leads

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