how could you put a rear seat in a mini van ?

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1974 clubby with round nose conversion
1100 motor
extractors
twin 1 1/4" su's
lumpy cam (dunno what 1)
2 1/2" exaust
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

look up pictures of the mini traveler seat mounts extra.
Although as usual the far bigger task will be getting the RTA to sign off on it.

There are are few companies around that fit seats to vans.
http://www.autoseats.com.au/ is one of these companies but there are others around.

That's what I have in my Van

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Your silliness has been noted.

cheers guys/gurls

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1974 clubby with round nose conversion
1100 motor
extractors
twin 1 1/4" su's
lumpy cam (dunno what 1)
2 1/2" exaust
http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

This is a seat out of a wreck I had. non engineered and very crude but a good base for an idea. If I ever put a seat in a van it will be done similar to this.

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Respect mine and I'll respect yours.

Is it a seat for kids or a seat for adults?
Kids seats can be bolted in with no engineers involved, only needing to follow manufacturers instructions, but if the seat is for someone over 15 kgs I think then it must be engineered and seating capacity on rego must be changed.
That's for Victoria at least.

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'72 English Van...'72 Export Moke ...63' 850...KZ 750E1...'74 P76

I've removed the rear seats from our Clubman Estate because it's impossible to fit rear seats belts - there's nothing substantial enough to anchor them back there. The only reasonable solution would be to weld in a cross brace, which kind of defeats the purpose.

While it's your call, I wouldn't want the liability of such a modification.

Is the floor that way so that the rear passenges also have to pedal?

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While the UK factory never worked out how to fit rear seatbelts into an estate, the Australian prototype had them. They were anchored in the top rear corners near the roof and passed through droplinks near the side windows. The seat still folded down unobstructed.


Thats why you use an engineer.

Tim

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1951 Morris Commercial J Type Van
1955 BSA C11G
1961 Morris Mini Traveller
1969 Triumph TR6R
1977 Leyland Moke Californian

If anyone cares enough to take a look at the link I posted they will see that it is quite easy to get seats and seatbelts into anything and have them comply to the rules.
Any talk about liability and impossibility is rubbish.

You can get seats with integral belts so all you have to do is mount the seat to the floor and the belts already mount to the seats. It is really easy.

There is always a way.

The "Traveller" that a Mini specialist built in the UK in 1994 using a new Mini Sprite and a NOS Clubman estate shell had rear seatbelts and was registered as a new car. He used a drop link from above the side windows and long thin reinforcing plates that linked the B and C pillars near the headlining.

The method used in the Aussie prototype is probably easier, and is the same one used for a local van that now has a Subaru Sherpa rear seat fitted, fully engineered.

Not sure which method I will use on my Traveller when I get that far.

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

There's no room to fit modern seats between the storage bins (same width as between a saloon's storage bins). Might be feasible in a van though.

While it might be feasible to fit strengthening subframe, it's a massive effort as the plans would (in NZ) need to be run past the committee of engineers that manage modified vehicles.

Running belts to the back of the vehicle doesn't sound particularly 'elegant' and again would need to be certified.

But if you think discussing liability of modifying a vehicle's safety features is rubbish, bear in mind in any accident such home made modifications are going to be the subject of much scrutiny. Up to you...

So which bit of my post went over your head? I am talking about getting an approved seat fitter to fit the seats and belts so that they comply to the requirements. Did you even check the link I posted?

Just mentioning that it's an involved process and that having looked into it I decided it's probably not something I'd want to be involved with - the forces expected in a crash are hard to contain in a shell with little structural strength. While the certifying process in NZ is strict, it makes you realise the liability in modifications is complex. You're liable for whoever travels in the vehicle even once it's sold to another owner.

A professional engineer can do anything, but is it worth the expense? Depends how often you carry more than one passenger I guess.