With reference to the floor cutout for the remote. The hole is not large enough or clean enough to be original. That hole is the minimum hole required to fit a remote shifter and that why the other 850 you referenced had a very similar hole.

Here is the what an 850 and Cooper would look like originally.

850


cooper

Many thanks for that. It is the same as the UK built Minis than. Our car looks like now to be an 850. We are quite determined to come up wit the closest, most likely version possible. We are quite against fouling history in an way .

Any of those parts ring a bell for You? They tend to look nice, neat not amateurish, but still not for sure that they are originals. Especialy that the car was converted to lhd.

The fencing wire and electrical tape may not be original. I am not sure what that bracket by itself is for.

These items made their way into the car in the 70s/80s. Hungary was back then a province of the USSR. There was absolutely no parts supply for these vehicles. It was unbelivably hard to run them. People did what they could. i am about 90% convinced that they are diy solutions, but they were done to a standard, I have 10% doubts . Just look at that metalwork. A skilled one did it for sure. Not the Omnipotent Home Tinker Eddie.

Can You please tell me the date of manufacture for 10942 and 10966? 64?

Those numbers are both 1961 for an Australian Morris 850

The boot is easy enough to change during its life

Have you got seatbelt mounts on the b pillar?

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Oh... 61... thats a bit of a surprize...

Yes, we do have seat belt mounts... moreover: the front panel was not full skirt in '91, and I have no reason to think that it was not the original...

The top mount for the seatbelt was changed to that lower position in Sep 1963 around YMA2S1 36500 so obviously the car isnt YMA2S1 10950.

Thats how I know it. But if this is true, the car was built post '63... and yes: obviously NOT YMA2S1... but what then? Which type had 10k-ish serial around '64?

Out of the roundnoses - only the 850, Deluxe and Mini K went over 10000 cars but they are totally different bodies with different body stamping positions as well.

Its looking like the chassis and body numbers are not for that body.

One piece headliner as well. That started at YMA2S1 51216

Sounds rational, but what about the drilled roof gutter? And the stampings of the firewall... it looks soo much like original...

If the stampings are from YMA2S1 10950 then the ID plate was below the chassis number and the body number was hidden behind the ID plate. Is there evidence that the stampings were welded into the firewall?

Maybe they started with something like this


Cut out a section and welded it into this position.


From around car 17000 the ID plate and chassis number moved to the drivers side but the ID plate was placed above the chassis number.


Body numbers were hidden under the ID plate until about car 35000 when the body number moved to the radiator shroud. This is probably why the radiator shroud is missing. If the car is a 1964 then they have effectively covered up or removed the original stampings. My best guess is they had car 10950 and wrecked it and just welded the numbers into a late 1964 shell in the 50000 range.

If your 2 ID plate holes are either side of the lower stamping then the firewall was had that section welded in from another car.

I am trying to explain it as best i can but its hard to do over the internet. Its easier to explain in person.

Can you grind back the area around the stampings and check for welding?

Where are the old ID plate holes located? Above or below?

I will clean up the area as best as I can, and after preparation, I will send it to sand blasting. Although I cannot find any signs of welding at the moment. And my numbers are on the other side of the firewall, and that would be hard to and irrational to cut a section from the left side firewall, an weld it to the right side.

But I understand Your point, and think I would find it a solution, if only I could find the weldings.

Another idea came into my mind: isnt it possible that a replacement SHELL was ordered and a factory dealer did all the work on a new shell? Maybe ordered the shell with the stampings done by the factory?

Very complicated idea, and still would not explain everything, but may be a reason.

The Lucky One is not willing to give its secrets very easy.

Did I menshioned, that the b post on the right side differs from the one on the left side?



If You have facebook, I made a group and shared many pics.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1301396116938894

Some pictures that I took today.

The car was fitted with dinamo, and the control box was on the right side inner wing in front of the crossmember. Thats ok. But I dont have a clue of the other attachments. Some of which might have been homemade, but some look original (for example the welded nut)



The front subframe was dry, had the nut-type attahment, and these clamps to hold the brake pipe? The brakes were the later type drums.







The rear subframe is also a dry one, with strange welded on brackets (?) at the corners. The subframe itself looks seam welded (?).



The rights hand side front wing looks original, spot welded in place. The lamp bowl fittment is rectangular not round. I cant recall it from memory, but I think this was also an early feature.



Boot lid and quite a set of holes for the badge(s). Not sure which are originals.



And on the last two pictures I think we can see the original color of the shell: the greenish yellowish tint is over the orange/brown primer.





Still many-many thanks for any hint... We are determined more than ever to find out the secrets of this adventurer.