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I think every six months for a driving test on elderly people at 65 is a bit much. Maybe a driving test when they turn 70 and from then on maybe once a year.

But personally its not so much the elderly drivers you have to watch for I think. I mean its sad what has happened to Shard's Mini. But not all elderly people are bad drivers.

I personally think these younger drivers with fast cars are more of a problem. As they pose more of a threat than what elderly drivers do being on the road.

Just this weekend while taking Granny for a run there was two P platers racing and darting in and out of the traffic like morons. One of the morons swerved into my lane and if I did not see the idiot coming up from behind me and if I had not of slowed down I am sure he would have collected Granny :evil:..

My opinion is P plate drivers should be restricted on what kind of cars they can drive while holding their provisonal licence. More or less like motorcycle riders who are only permitted to ride a 250cc motorcycle unless they have a full car licence. I also think P plate drivers should be made to sit for another driving test before they are given their full licence.

As I am sure this would help cut down on the amount of accidents by young inexperienced drivers on our roads.

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P platers should only be allowed to register 4cyl cars under 2.0L NA
similar to 250cc limit for bikes


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[quote="J_A_M"]thats a clubby guard Mike :wink:[/quote]

Oh damn - I use both so i didn't pay that much attention - Okay then I will go for it unless I have alerted the millions.


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I'm on my p's, and i'm a safe driver. I dont speed (well i have once, but i cant be judged on that. Everyone else does occasionally too), i indicate teh proper distance away from a corner, i know how a round about works, and i dont race people in the street. But in the short amount of driving experience i have had, it is amazing how many fully licenced adults i see who dont know any of the road rules. ANd these arent people just off their p's, these are people in the 35-50 age category. I ve been run off the road several times, had people pull out in front of me, beep me for not driving into an intersection an a green light when the exit is full, fail to use their indicaters at all, over take on the left, ignore signs, and merge without looking. I'll be trying to turn right into my driveway, and 'soccer mums' in their 4wd's will overtake me on teh right! People sit right behind me with their high beams on, and drive a stupid amount of k's under the speed limit in areas where you cant over take! (40 in a 60 zone on a nice day, no sun in your eyes, then they slow down upon entering an 80 zone just because its downhill? I mean, come on.)

THEY are the people who are the worst drivers, at least down this part of the country, yet p platers are always the target?

What really annoys me however, is that as learners, we're told that you never really learn to drive until you're on your p's, and out there by your self. Yet when we reach our p's, and make a mistake (isnt that how you learn? By making mistakes?) everyone has a go at you (typical p plater! You should all be tested lots and lots and lots, until you fail. lets keep testing you till you fail! Then you wont be on our roads!)

I could go on about this for hours, but i wont. Its a topic thats been covered too many times. And this thread was about an old lady hitting shards car, so i dont know why p platers were mentioned in the first place.

Hey... i have an idea. How about everyone getting re tested every 5 years. That'd weed out the bad drivers of all ages!

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P platers should only be allowed to register 4cyl cars under 2.0L NA
similar to 250cc limit for bikes



it's basically like that in skinnedknee at the moment anyway... just no turbos..

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Hey hang in there.
Everyone who drives had to learn at some point and in thatregard nothing has changed. What has changed is the stress levels of drivers who verge at a point just below road rage.

Driving is a constant learning curve. And yes once you master the basics you do learn more by driving by yourself. This is why trainee pilots are basically going solo at 40 hours. After that they learn more by them selves until it is time for the next level of trainingthat required some piloting experience.

I am a great believer that new drivers should drive for about six months and then book into an advanced driving course (lets call it a defensive driving course) and then learn how to handle the problems that pop up. Such as emergency braking, slides, swerves and car control and balance.

I did an advance driving course after i had been racing for about 12 months. It was a work sponsored thing coz of the number of bent company cars (not by me) and the next time I drove the race car I was a second and half faster with no other changes.

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adeee wrote:
Hey... i have an idea. How about everyone getting re tested every 5 years. That'd weed out the bad drivers of all ages!


Nah, that's stoopid - that would be like inspecting cars every year to make sure they are still safe & roadworthy :P
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There are bad drivers every where and every age but the problem is when young its hard to know about the limits and what happens if you exceed them, anyone can study and pass a written trest and do all the stuff for the prac test but it is only with time and experience you learn how to really drive

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Will you be saying that when your 65?

I know plenty of people who should not drive at all.

You were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

It will sort itself out, everything happens for a reason. Don't ask me why.

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prolly wont even be alive...who knows...
if i cant drive then take my licence away now...
if you reverse into a stationary object...you shouldnt be on the road at all...

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[quote]if you reverse into a stationary object...you shouldnt be on the road at all...[/quote]

Thats a bit harsh - everyone unfortunately has a lapse of concentration from time to time. Look at the number of V8 supercar guys who clip a wall and climb out of the wreck saying i had a concentration blip. At least this lady didn't back over a kid and believe me that is every parent's nightmare.

Even high profile footballers are not immune from that.

Having said all that - you have a right to be angry and depressed. Its a nice car you have and now it needs some work. It will be better than ever once its back *s*


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Spaceboy wrote:
P platers should only be allowed to register 4cyl cars under 2.0L NA
similar to 250cc limit for bikes


No thats just stupid. A lot of P platers can't afford their own car, they drive their parents. Many family's have commadores or falcons which are 6cyl 3.6L.. In NSW we have new restrictions on what cars P platers can drive (no forced induction as one example, and a list of other NA cars they can't drive). But falcon's and commadores are ok.


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Nah, just ban skylines, commodores and EA falcons, and the prolem will fix itself soon enough. :D


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sure there are bad drivers in every age bracket...but your body starts to deteriorate the older you get...and with it declines your ability to react quickly enough to avoid accidents...

i am a firm believer that L platers should have done atleast 150hrs of driving before they are even allowed to go for their practical tests...infact i believe this concept is under review up here in sunny QLD...not sure exactly how you could effectively enforce this...but its a good idea none the less...

as for older drivers...i think there has to be an age where you RETIRE from driving...they more or less force you to retire from work at 65...

now forcing people to retire from driving wouldnt be very PC...so hell...let em take a regular practical driving test (like a medical checkup, another thing which increases in frequency as you get older) just to make sure its not time to retire yet...and if you fail...oh well...you get a free ticket for public transport that never expires as a consolation...

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The body may deterioraate but you can excercise but there is no cure for stupity except death :D

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The body may deterioraate but you can excercise but there is no cure for stupity except death :D


i never said all the people getting their P's should either :P i am simply saying that the elderly should not just be allowed to drive without regular re-assessment...

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