Its a body plate as fitted to Mk1 Cooper S, seems fairly legit as replacements were available from BMC to repair stolen and stripped cars, fairly normal back in the late 60 and 70s, I know a lady (became the first treasurer of the ACTMCC) who in the late 70s had a very nice S and parked it in a carpark near her work and when she came back after work and tried to start it no go, the mongrels had removed the carbs,head,dizzy,oil cooler, starter and a few other bits including the body plate.

So before you all go jumping the gun about how real this plate is, have another think, if the guy says he removed it from his car it probably is true and from a real Cooper

The date on the plate would be when the replacement plate was surplied not a build date for car so the car would be pre this date

Jon

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I resemble that remark ....lol

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1966 Morris Mini Minor
1967 Morris Cooper 'S'
1977 Leyland LS

Its not a real plate ....read my previous few posts , the only thing legit about it is the reverse stamping and even that has an error , Large "A" in engine number prefix , should be small "a" , colours wrong , engine number stamps wrong size , should n't have a date on it , etc etc etc , crap i give up , believe what you like ...........

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1966 Morris Mini Minor
1967 Morris Cooper 'S'
1977 Leyland LS

AJ

you better check your facts

1. the replacement plates were supplied form BMC with incomplete info so that the dealer could add the rest of the numbers, the reason for this was so that the dealer could varify the rest of the info from the car before placing it on the replacement, to stop people from getting body plates without proof of car really needing and existing

And I worked for BMC thats how I know about this stuff, so please dont be offended but you may be wrong about this one

Jon

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1) If BMC were going to issue a replacement plate wouldn't all the digits be reverse stamped?
2) If the plate was genuine it wouldn't look brand new.
3) The guy was selling blank plates recently.

I should post a pic of the plate on my S just to show what a 38 year old plate looks like.

1 no all numbers and letters were not stamped at factory for reasons stated, check against vehicle before final stamping and issue

2 it does not look like brand new, far from it and who knows when this particular car was killed, I had many Cooper S body plates from wrecked ones over the years and some where less than a couple of years old when removed and chucked on the shelf with all the others, I know of many places around Sydney that killed a couple of Ss a week like Frank at the mini factory and the guys out at the Minishop in Penrith

3 so where did he get the reverse number stamps and machine to do it, and for all the crap to find them its not worth the effort

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I have one question in relation to this.
Was it necessary to write the underlined statement on ebay ?
"It appears that this is not genuine Paul!!! Perhaps you should say replica? Your getting a bad reputation. http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16869"

Opinions should be worded carefully to ensure this forum does not look bad especially when it comes to deformation of character on a service such as Ebay...

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I've been scratching my head about these "deformation suits" thinking that it may be something a panelbeaters uses .............. aaahhhaahh, "defamation" right?

Also, the seller has the right to decide whether to publish questions on ebay right? If the seller has decided to publish what was a private question in the public domain, how can the person who asked the question be slandering the seller?

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Speedy

I hope you haven't been deformed lately sounds damn painful to me

I think by linking what is beeing said on the forum to the question and making a call about the guy/gals integrity is what is wrong, and by listing it on the ebay sales sheet is smart buy the seller if he was so inclined to take action as the forum and comments are now all there to read and so far all they have said is not backed by any facts just speculation.

I think this thread should be deleted and people should be careful about what they say and post about others sales, if you don't have proof of what you are saying don't say it on this board or mention this board to support your claims

Jon

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I wasn't going to comment anymore on this matter , as I consider it closed , but I find your comments about dealers and ID plates a bit off the mark . It was and still is ILLEGAL for a dealer , or any other person for that matter , to alter , re-stamp or make replacement ID or compliance plates , with heavy penaltys for this offence . You are partly right , when you say the car and owners details have to be verified by the dealer . The dealer on verifing the details then applied to the factory for a replacement plate to be issued . The plate could then be fitted to the vehicle by the dealer , after approval by the appropriate goverment motor vehicle department . I have seen a few re-issued plates . A friend of mine had one re-issued in the 70's for his Cooper S ( he still has the car) and the ID plate is as the factory made it ..... ie : no bodgied numbers or dates on it ............. cheers

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1966 Morris Mini Minor
1967 Morris Cooper 'S'
1977 Leyland LS

wonder exactly what a defOrmation suit is...i think he's deformed...definitely nothing like a defAmation suit i wouldnt think...

damnit...shoulda read the rest of the posts before posting this oh well...early bird catches the worm i spose

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1966 Morris Mini DeLuxe FOR SALE

Just so you know I have fitted replacement body plates and when this one was fitted in 66 as per the date this is how it was done, you are right in some aspects in 1970 it became ilegal to do it the old way and the legislation was changed because of the introduction of compliance plates which only could be stamped by the manufacture and supplied by them but body plates have nothing to do with this system as it only had info that the manufacture kept records of.

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Trust me, it hurt!

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deformation suit....
I thought he was thinking of a defecation suit.

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1970 Mini Deluxe - 1275, Weber, Clive 346 cam, MS 4-pot slotted discs, Megajolt ignition Now with new improved Mambas... almost on the road
1966 Van with Traveller rear seat conversion
2008 Prado GXL
All in various states of repair...

christ I thought it was bad enough he was getting deformed now the poor bugga is being defecated on.......................................can't seem to take a trick

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Roundies and Clubbies(except vans) are both ugly that is why I have Midas and a van
1293 Mini Midas Bronze,1275 Clubman van