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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:55 pm 
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thanks for the info i think ill just get it crqck tested and get it runnng again just started a new job and seeing ive gone from casual to fulltime the weekly wage has dropped still on the struggle side at the moment so the bair essentials will do
at least i know what i should be paying

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Part of the attraction of this site is that we try to help those that dont dont have the same information as us on any one subject. Your turn will come when you advise others on a mini procedure.

Not that long ago, on a country road, I saw a middle aged women struggling to fix a flat tyre. What she was trying was dangerous so I wheeled in and did the tyre change thing. She wanted to flood me with money, $50, $20 etc and I told her that all I wanted was for her husband to replace the flat tyre when my wife has that problem. She asked how would her husband recognise my wife. I just smiled and said ultimately it doesn't matter.

Being on Ausmini is a lot like that - one day you will help someone else. Be the bloke that changes my wifes flat tyre.


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well i just finished pulling the head off took me about 2.5 hours not too bad i think for my first go but it doesnt look good once i got it off one of the pistons was full of water and the rest are covered in thick oil my old man thinks the rings are gone??
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Rings won't be gone, clean it all up, drain the oil and water systems, all the crap in the bores etc etc, will be from when you blew the gasket and all the crap in the head (ie the water) because it wasn't drained before you pulled it off.

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cheers mate if the rings are goone what would kind of a problem would it cause??

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Smoke, Smoke Smokin... :) stuffed rings = Smoke. As far as my untrained brain knows.
Other things too... but you wont see em cause of the smoke :)

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well theres no smoke thats for sure i had a mate come hav a look for me today and he says it looks ok so ill get the head done on monday and put it back in during the week
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Hey Guys

New to this site but not to minis

In my experience the old A-series can pretty much be put through anything.
I had a mate once who turned up complaining that the car was running a little hot, I opened the bonnet and the damn thing was almost glowing!
Turns out the head gasket needed doing but he had to get home that night. We took off the head replaced the gasket cleaned it up and bolted her straight back together. Wouldn't you know it the things been workin fine for about 3 years.

It's amazing what these old engines can do.

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Well done Bob for your first one.
But it is easier taking one off than it is to put them back on..
I expect to see another thread next weekend unless you get assistance

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put the head in this morning to get crack tested and turn out it needed to be ground aswell the bloke said it had low spots then picked it up this arvo cost me $85 for the pressure test and to get the head shaved not too bad i think bloke also said there was a gasket problem??
got my sister picking me up the new gaskets tomorrow and new spark plugs and oil filter so i can give it a service while im at it before it goes back on the road

the gaskets gasket cement spray spark plugs and oil filter cost me $73 in total

total cost for my blown head gasket and service $158
much better then paying someone to do it
but well see how much ill be wishing i paid someone once i start putting it all back together

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Make sure you torque it up in the correct sequence and nm or it will leak again.


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What do you want the gasket cement ??? for ????

I certainly hope its not for the head gasket ???


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Head gaskets need NOTHING put on, but be sure both head and block are spotless, check particularly around the head studs.
Finally a wipe down with thinners is a good idea.

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i called up mine spares at seven hills to get the stuff i needed just because i didnt have time to go get stuff and thats the closest and i had to send my mum to get them and he said you need this helamar cement to apply it on both surfaces then fit the gasket
can any one tell me why he wouldve said this and hsould i or shouldnt i use it and also does the manifold gasket and rocker cover gasket need it aswell???
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:43 pm 
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There are a couple of different types of head gaskets -
1. there is the early metal type that has some sort of filling material. When you tighten down the head, any irregularities in the head and block surfaces are partially absorbed by the compression of the head gasket. NO cement needed but they do need re torquing down after 100 or so km..

2. There is the composite type head gaskets that has a bead of silicon that when compressed also seals irregularities. A good and modern gaskets - no cement needed and they dont need to be retorqued.

3. The british turbo gasket - a good gasket and popular - made of a compressible material. No cement needed but its better to retorque them.

Now for the rocker cover gasket and the manifold gasket. The rocker gaskets commonly is cork (may be synthetic) and does not need a sealant. It does need to be properly fitted or it will leak but it relies on compression to give a good seal.

The manifoldt gasket is a heat resistant compound, that again, seals by compression of the gasket and does not need a sealant compound.

The heater outlet gasket on the rear of head the is a cardboard type gasket and is aided by a aviation (non setting) gasket goo. The water pump gasket is the same. Neither of these need a sealant cement though. I cant actually think of a valve regrind gasket that needs a cement type sealant.

Have I missed a gasket that needs a sealant cement ??????????


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