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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:33 pm 
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You have to remember that allthough BMC sprayed the shell complete they had first put the car through the Rotodip process.

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Bodies for all Australian made BMC's - Mini, Morris 1100 and Austin 1800 were all treated on the $2 million Rotodip machine during manufacture. On this exclusive machine, the unpainted bodyshell and doors were submerged and rotated in a series of baths containing phosphates and primer. This treated and covered every metal surface, both inside and out, to prevent the onset of rust.


The electro-coating plant painted small parts, which could not be treated by the Rotodip process. This included such parts as the fascia, or dashboard panel, heater boxes, grille panels and numerous small sheet metal parts not welded to the body itself.


Electro-coating was a major advance in the technology of metal coating. It involved a dip process in which paint is held in suspension by a liquid. The paint is deposited on the metal component when an electric current passes from an electrode to the vehicle, which acts as the other electrode. Paint particles are attracted to the metal, coagulate and are deposited until an even paint film covers the entire surface, including edges and remote crevices, and all internal surfaces. When the paint film reached a certain thickness it insulated the metal and prevented more paint being deposited.
When deposited, the paint is hard and cannot be removed.


Unlike spraying or conventional non-handling dipping methods, electro-coating left no uncoated areas in parts of complicated shapes. It also gave an even paint thickness and virtually eliminated paint loss.


The Rotodip process fully immersed and rotates each sedan body in a six-stage phosphating machine, then took it through a drying-off oven, followed by a dip tank of special rust inhibiting priming paint, and a primer baking oven. All these processes were continuous and automatic.


To move through the machine the unpainted car body was skewered on a long metal spit, which had a sprocket at one end. The sprocket ran on a toothed rack, so that the spit - and the body clamped to it - rotated as they moved.


The first tank contained a heated alkali to remove oil and other contaminants. The second tank contained a cold water rinse, and the third a hot water rinse, to make sure the body was perfectly clean before it enterd the phosphating tank.


In the phosphating section the 'skewered' body was lowered into various tanks while rotating. At the same time high pressure jets sprayed the solution so that every bare metal portion of the body was treated, both inside and out. Phosphating is actually a conversion of the body steel surface so that if the paint surface was damaged accidentally during use, corrosion would not spread. It also acted as a bond between steel and paint.


The phosphating was followed by a hot water rinse and then by a heated chromic acid rinse. The body completed two slow revolutions in each tank. After phosphating, the body was dried in an oven. It was then dipped and rotated in a 7,000 gallon tank of primer, remaining for 2.6 minutes. This meant that every particle of bare metal received a coating of paint. Excess paint drained away through special holes provided in body panels and other enclosed parts. The painted body, still rotating, was baked in an oven for 30 minutes at 340 degrees Farenheit. (borrowed from http://austin1800.homestead.com


You may be able to paint the car the same way that BMC did, you will not be able to prepare the body the same way.


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Morris 1100 wrote:
You may be able to paint the car the same way that BMC did, you will not be able to prepare the body the same way.


Apparently, if I had a cool 2 million I would :lol:

That was a great read. Thanks for educating us!


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But didn't this good stuff all come to a screaming halt when they moved production from Zetland to Enfield?? :lol: :cry:

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drmini in aust wrote:
But didn't this good stuff all come to a screaming halt when they moved production from Zetland to Enfield?? :lol: :cry:

Yep. That is why the later ones rust more!


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Morris 1100 wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
But didn't this good stuff all come to a screaming halt when they moved production from Zetland to Enfield?? :lol: :cry:

Yep. That is why the later ones rust more!

Hmmm... I own a 78 Clubby (slightly bent) with bugger all rust... maybe I should rotodip the sucker in fish oil... 8)

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Yea...my 78 is the most rust free Mini I have ever seen! :P


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My 78 has the most rust I have ever seen! :lol:


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Morris 1100 wrote:
My 78 has the most rust I have ever seen! :lol:

Must of been one of them ones that Leyland, er... you know.. left the bare bodies outside, as there was no room at the inn... :wink:

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i cant see how it can be a good thing at all anton, Im lookin at the 1100 etc in the pic
you put up and all the hinges are on the inside of the car... The door and boot hinges to me would be one of the most compelling reasons as to not spray the car assembled... it would just crack eventualy and look shoddy... def def def def do it with the doors and boot off at leaast


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It must have been nice to live in a time when it was safe to paint without respirators etc.

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