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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:29 pm 
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fit narrow hard tyres pumped up real hard,,,, run a cool fuel tin,,,, water spray on intercooler,,,, fit a water methanol injection kit,,, hee hee

sorry, that`s all called cheating isn`t it?

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Take it to WSID and compare time to BIGBAD 8)

Calculate RPM using wheel speed (km/hr) off sheet, 3rd gear overall ratio and wheel diameter/circumference, compare to the numbers off Grahams dyno

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Well the old motor that never went on the dyno so i really have no idea of the power it put out, but i did 1.19 or so at wakefield on its only run there with std shocks and s brakes, etc so i am sure it would be better now with all the sus and brake upgrades i have done.
i have also ran it at the old eastern creek with that motor and i did a 14.4 at 92mph with 13" rims and the old gearbox which had a shorter 1st gear.

so now with the MK! s box and if i stiffen up the rear shocks i am sure it would launch better with much less wheel spin than before.

maybe we should look at doing a WSId night soon before it gets too hot at night.

what do you think?

Josh, i ma keen for dyno by mid December or so if the cooler is done.

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Go for a screw type blower instead of a Rootes. Takes less power to run and produces more.

With a Rootes blower increase the charge density before and after the blower this dramatically reduces back pressure to the blower and therefore more power.

or cool the blower.

Go to a BMW K Head andforce feed it.

Go to an electric water and fuel pump worth a couple of horses.

Use the a bigger SU as a throttle body and FI it.


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Blokeinamoke wrote:

Go to an electric water and fuel pump worth a couple of horses.

Use the a bigger SU as a throttle body and FI it.


Thank you, someone that is thinking outside the square :D

Davies/Craig say that the EWP is worth around 3-4hp. I know Ben (92) runs one on his Starlet Clubby. And Ferrari use them on the Maranello race car... Cant be all bad :wink:

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make sure you can get a tail wind when on the dyno - that always helps get better results on the track???


Just an idiots ideas.

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has anyone used ida injection, its just a thought but ida injection is very similar to a webber, now could you change the jets to suit the minis intake,

ida is a setup we use on big port rotors

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Boostedmini wrote:
Well the old motor that never went on the dyno so i really have no idea of the power it put out, but i ran it at the old eastern creek and did a 14.4 at 92mph


You do have an idea, 92 mph. Forget about your box, mph is used for hp calcs, not ET. You need your car weight and use Vizards yellow book pg 33, to figure out your previous power.

Lets say its between 680 & 720kgs (1496lbs - 1584lbs), and use 0.34 as a guide for the calc. This gives an indicated HP of between 108-114hp

Your new mph should be around 108 (with fly of 177 or whatever it is), that why I said go to WSID and find out/compare.

Interestingly, Miniwilliams claims 224bhp but his fastest is around 108 so we'll see if hes telling the truth knowing that yours has a confirmed flywheel figure.

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Grant, I have a G-Tech here if you want to borrow it... :wink:
It's an old one, but works. 8)
Will give you 0-60 and 1/4 mine times.
No I don't know what mine does really, I haven't found a good flat bit of road with no bears on it. :lol:

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Well the old motor that never went on the dyno so i really have no idea of the power it put out, but i ran it at the old eastern creek and did a 14.4 at 92mph


You do have an idea, 92 mph. Forget about your box, mph is used for hp calcs, not ET. You need your car weight and use Vizards yellow book pg 33, to figure out your previous power.

Lets say its between 680 & 720kgs (1496lbs - 1584lbs), and use 0.34 as a guide for the calc. This gives an indicated HP of between 108-114hp

Your new mph should be around 108 (with fly of 177 or whatever it is), that why I said go to WSID and find out/compare.

Interestingly, Miniwilliams claims 224bhp but his fastest is around 108 so we'll see if hes telling the truth knowing that yours has a confirmed flywheel figure.

Daniel


he's taken it to 3 rolling road to prove it and you still doubt? :lol:


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Spaceboy wrote:
he's taken it to 3 rolling road to prove it and you still doubt? :lol:


Doubt what? :? Grant's engine has been on GR's engine dyno, that's it, that's the HP. I think he said it was 177 or 175 or something like that.

I was mearly saying that if Grant wants compare his new motor to old that he can and the method I suggest is quite accurate if you plug in the correct mph (to the decimal point). If the mass is off by 2% then so will the horsepower, so he needs to weigh the car too which I'm sure would be close to before.

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no i mean you doubt miniwilliams


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could always stick a ford siera engine in the back of it.. a guy in the uk has 600 hp and does close to and some sub ten second passes

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run avgas or even methanol... Runs way cooler and you get way more power too...
Hey maybe methanol is the answer to all those mini overheating problems

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A mate up this way who's done several supercharged and turbo'd mini's normally uses water/methanol inection to help him go wilder in the motor spec , not sure of all the details but it's probably worth looking into the theory of it at least .

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