Ausmini
It is currently Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:44 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 48 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:23 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39763
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
sgc wrote:
Toluene?!? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Nasty sh!t..

Don't look now, but it's in your fuel already... :wink:

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:24 pm 
Offline
Bimmer Twinky
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:36 pm
Posts: 8606
Location: Brisbane
yeah but not a 3rd ,,,,& a 3rd methanol hey? :-)

_________________
No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:27 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39763
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
TheMiniMan wrote:
yeah but not a 3rd ,,,,& a 3rd methanol hey? :-)

"I loooove the smell of Shell A and Castrol R in the evening..." 8)

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:27 pm 
Offline
Causing or creating vexation

Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:32 pm
Posts: 19124
sgc wrote:
Toluene?!? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Nasty sh!t..
Not as nasty as you think, it is what a large part of unleaded fuel is made from. :wink:
Every time I start my wife's car I all I can smell is Toluene.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:29 pm 
Offline
This space for rent
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:40 pm
Posts: 5455
Location: Melbourne
Methanol's a good octane booster, and Cart run 100% methanol.. so that's pretty tame. But one *third* toluene, that's pretty serious :lol: :lol:

I think the turbo-era F1 cars ran something like 80% toluene, and that was banned because it's too toxic. I remember my first Adelaide GP, and the thing that surprised me most about the experience was the smell of the fuel... maybe that accounts for my acute brain damage these days :lol: :lol:

_________________
Simon

The adventures of an owner builder in the Tallarook Ranges

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:35 pm 
Offline
religious status
religious status
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 6:19 pm
Posts: 39763
Location: near Baulkham Hills, NSW
Back in the 60's we used to add 2 gallons of Shell Methyl Benzene or BP Benzol to each tank when we filled up, on Cooper S's.
I've been told since that that stuff was just toluene, am I right?
I ain't no chemist... :lol:

_________________
DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R. :mrgreen:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:37 pm 
Offline
This space for rent
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:40 pm
Posts: 5455
Location: Melbourne
I ain't no chemist either, but methyl benzene is the more "correct" name for toluene :)

I think maybe I'm thinking about a different hydrocarbon.. toluene may not be all that bad after all.

_________________
Simon

The adventures of an owner builder in the Tallarook Ranges

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:43 pm 
Offline
I is a mookenik
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:46 pm
Posts: 3471
Location: sydney
yeah ive heard methernol makes a crazy fuel but tests have proven that it burns out ur bores and pistons and crap like that really bad to run it to often, a mate of mine used a mix of standard fuel and methernol to get him home one night cause he was low on petrol and he said it ran like it was on steriods but the after affect cost him big time, a couple of days later the car was coffing and splattering everywhere he drove and we stripped his motor ( gemini) and found that the methernol had cleaned the combustion chamber so well it had eaten all the carbon away and started eating at the edges of the valves and started to burn them.

so yes it is good to get that boost using ethernol and methernol everyonce and a while but i wouldnt recommend every day use juz probably once every 2 weeks

_________________
oil leak?..what oil leak..that puddle under the car is just sweat from all that horsepower

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:23 pm 
Offline
SooperDooperMiniCooper ExpertEngineering
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:46 am
Posts: 18888
Location: Under the bonnet son!
Got my car home after running out of fuel on the freeway in perth. All I had was RC plane fuel (which I had just paid 7 dollars a litre for) in the car so I stuck that in. 17 percent oil, 20 percent Nitro methane and the rest Methanol.

You don't so much press the throttle as you vary the choke. Revs like a power drill, but not much torque.

_________________
SooperDooperMiniCooperExpertEngineering

All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:44 am 
Offline
1275cc
1275cc

Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:22 am
Posts: 2292
Location: Somewhere...... over the rainbow
Methanol if I'm not mistaken if at full throttle can make blue flames comes through an exhaust system? If not what could do that??


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:01 am 
Offline
This space for rent
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:40 pm
Posts: 5455
Location: Melbourne
I thought methanol burned without a visible flame. They certainly have problems with that in the Indy series.. the only way they can spot a fuel fire is by the heat haze. The blue flame might be the result of something other than methanol in the fuel though..

_________________
Simon

The adventures of an owner builder in the Tallarook Ranges

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:07 am 
Offline
1275cc
1275cc

Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:22 am
Posts: 2292
Location: Somewhere...... over the rainbow
Reason I ask is that about 18 months ago or so I was traveling along side then quickly was behind a Falcon Ute that suddenly took off and about 30 cm or so flame blue came out the exhaust tips


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:37 am 
Offline
1098cc
1098cc
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:36 pm
Posts: 1581
Location: melbourne
back in the old days of leaded petrol , wasnt it 106 octane? so mini's being from that time you would think that they should be run on atleast 98oc, my mini runs best on shell v power, and i normally like using only bp ultimate, the ultimate lasts longer but the v power makes it go harder

_________________
real men race downhill - keiichi tsuchiya


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:07 am 
Offline
1275cc
1275cc
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:57 pm
Posts: 3635
Location: Gulgong
Somebody something like "their car runs rich on what ever octane fuel"

I think you will find that the mixture setting doesn't change noticably between the various commercially available fuels. Its more a matter of the fact that some fuels are smokier than others and in some cases its batch to batch variation in the fuels themselves.

Gulgong is a small town which makes it easier to recognise a trend. About to years ago, my cars (commodore, tonner and the mini) all started to miss and foul plugs. I was starting to think about different plugs and spoke to my local mechanic. He just simply said "did you get your fuel at the xxxxxxx servo" ?

Yes, then he told me that he had dealt with a rash of cars with the same problem. All used fuel from that servo. The servo proprietors are straight shooters and don't play games with their fuels - it was straight from their suppliers.

Back in the old days we used to judge the state of tune by the colour of the spark plugs. You cant do that any more - they are always smokey black and that is because of the fuel not the tune.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:48 pm 
Offline
I is a mookenik
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:46 pm
Posts: 3471
Location: sydney
the indys run on ethernol isn't it? im not sure about the indys but 98 octane is the best for a mini anymore without modifications will cause a slight pinging cause off to much octane not enough octane u might need hotter plugs to burn it better ( i think it might be the other way around lol) but u get juz the right mixture and ur car will run like a dream, its like u havin a beer if the beer taste good ull feel a million bucks and will perform the best but if the beers a dogbox well ull be spiting it out and spewing. lol

_________________
oil leak?..what oil leak..that puddle under the car is just sweat from all that horsepower

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 48 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 109 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

© 2016 Ausmini. All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.