a pic would be good 1018, of your bracket too. The one I bought had the CAMS approved mark, I guess thats why they have the metal bracket.

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mine is there as well - it's out of the way of stray feet.

if you've got it where it can be easily kicked, and it gets scratches on it, it SHOULD fail scrutineering (that and minimum 900gm and metal bracket etc.)

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I would try to ignore the CAMS rules on fire extinguishers. CAMS are pretty clueless about safety and you can easily go a lot better than what they recommend.

The best fire extinguishers were the old yellow ones that were banned because they contain CFC gasses which could hurt the ozone layer. I wonder which would hurt the ozone layer more, a burning Mini or a yellow fire extinguisher?

Dry Chem extinguishers tend to settle the powder into a solid lump just from driving around. You need to unsettle the powder before you pull the trigger otherwise you just get a squirt of gas and no powder.

The driver that was hit in the jaw at Bathurst was Peter Williamson. He didn't lose his jaw but he did break it.

When I raced at the Nascar meetings they used to take the extinguiser out of the car for safety.
1) If it is not there it can't hit you.
2) Most people don't know how to use one.
3) They had qualified people to put out the fire!

Ok, before I post pictures (I know it has already been said) but please make sure it is secured correctly! I can yank on mine as hard as I can and it doesn't move. I feel as though the holder that was supplied with the extinguisher would break first, before my bracket would.

M1100 has brought up a good point. I have no affiliation with CAMS and have never read any of their rules petaining to fire extinguishers. I have done this purely myself, making up the dimensions etc as I went. If you intend to use it for racing check the material etc it has to be made out of, where it is to be located etc. I have done this for my own use in a everyday car that doesn't get used on the track.

I also accept no responsibility if some thing goes wrong in the event of a crash / accident / incident / toe stubbing / bracket bending due to the extinguisher being stood on etc. If you make this fire extinguisher bracket, you do so at entirely your own risk.

Ok, with that behind me here are the pics (please excuse the dirtiness of my car):


^^ Here it is in the normal position


^^ Another view looking straight down on top of it, you can just see the bracket


^^ Without the extinguisher in, the red bit came supplied with the extinguisher.


^^ Where it bolts on


^^ Where it bolts on the other end (this end is facing towards me (the driver))


^^ When I was choosing the bolts to bolt it down with I went for the biggest ones I could (for the red extinguisher holder to bracket fixing).




^^ Each end is identical


^^ I have put a 45° angle on each end to angle the extinguisher up and away from the floor (otherwise it wouldn't have fitted).


^^ This is for flute, more of an overall picture of where it sits


^^ Another with the seat touching the windscreen


^^ Looking at the extinguisher from underneath the seat, with the seat up (touches a little on the right)


^^ Looking from the foot well with the seat all the way up, as you can see it is just touching near the top of the extinguisher

The bottom of the extinguisher is closer to the floor due to the positioning of the bolt, and because the top of the extinguisher is attached to the 'other side' of the seat bracket it is higher.

Some approximate sizes are: All these dimensions are taken with the bracket bent up.

300mm overall length, 20mm rise, 190mm long centre section (where the extinguisher is bolted to), each end tab is 50mm long, the cut outs are cut 10mm into the aluminium, and are 10mm wide (both these dimensions may vary, I kept taking a little bit off each time until the thread of the bolt just fitted through).

The actual aluminium I used is 25mm wide and 3mm thick and there is about a 45° bend on each end to angle the extinguisher away from the floor

Any questions????

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A CAMS scrutineer would probably have no problems with it.
I can see a couple of concerns, I don't like the slotted mounts. It could break loose in an impact. (but if you had that sort of impact it is likely you would already be injured anyway!)
That bracket is designed to hang an extinguisher on the wall of a building, it is not made to take any cornering loadings.
I don't like mounting extinguishers on the floor where passengers can accidentally kick it loose. The over-centre catch does not take much to undo accidentally.
I have seen more accidents on the track caused by the extinguisher going under the pedals than I have seen cars saved by the extinguisher in the car.

But apart from that it is OK.

My last race car had an all metal twin over-centre catch. You had two straps around the bottle. There was no way it was going to come loose.

Why should you need a Fire extinguisher. Just get some fusible linke fitted to the Car. They stop a Fire before it starts. My Merc has an extinguisher fitted just in front of the driver's seat. It is an obstacle !! But it looks good !

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By fusible link, do you mean a automated fire suppression system, or a large electrical fuse??

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i'm amazed this has gone two pages
considering some other Mini stuff only gets looked at, but i'm at fault of this also
Thie is what I have made by Quell including the bracket as Morris 1100 mentioned

The bracket is nice and strong and I know these screws are strong also but I also have lomger one's..those in know..into the cross member i know they wont pull out as I don't want anything under the floor as morris is low enough

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How does a fusible link stop petrol from the split fuel hose under the SU catching fire on the extractors?

A fusible link is not going to help if some long grass burns on the hot headers... or any other number of other non electrical related fire possibilities I can think of.

Mine is mounted length ways in between the gear stick and high beam dipper switch.

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Mount it near the seat bracket.

I had mine bolted through the wheelwell on the drivers side thinking it would be a good spot in case of an emergency. It turned out to be a bad spot after I did this at Catalina



The whole bracket and extinguisher came off after the impact and was flying around with me inside the Mini while we rolled down the track

They're a great idea - just make sure it's secured properly.

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Good bracket Gafmo. Thats the trick.

I once had an extinguisher that I got from a reputable Motor-sports supplier that had a plastic top. The trigger and lever both were plastic. This was alright except that I bumped the top trigger and it broke off! Making the extinguisher useless.
The trouble was that I had a meeting the next morning and I couldn't get another extinguisher that fitted the special bracket.
So I grabbed the superglue and glued the trigger back on to be able to race that meeting and got a new extinguisher and modified the bracket. (about 12 months later! )

I really feel that on the racetrack they are a waste of time. Have you ever seen a car that has been saved by a 900gram shot of baking soda? The big extinguishers have enough trouble putting out a real fuel fire.

Cheers everyone. Morris 1100 I cant denied when i saw it and had a good inspection and the price i just though that perfect
where to mount it. I'v lovfe to do the cross member but i think I'll open two holes up to 5/16th (as you would) and Nulon nuts in much the same position infront of the drive seat with a plate below

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Its good to see people thinking about there safety and there investment.
Just remember with a small fire extinguisher you only get one shot and your own safty comes first.
Cheers Tony.