Wonder how you would go inserting a phase to the effect "if paying by Paypal buyer pays commission" - works with postage

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David L


My greatest fear in life is that when I die my wife will sell my Mini and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!

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Do u mean $133 - otherwise you did better out of the deal and nobody lost. Ie you sold for $140 and you recieved $143 and the buyer still got it for the purchase price plus postage (140 + 16 = 156).

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Um, sounds like he was meant to get $156 for the goods plus postage, but only got $143 after fees were applied.

If there is a way to end up getting more money than the buyer paid, I would love to hear about it.

Here is a situation...
i sold a cooper badge for $77 in my store.
It cost 51c to list($2-3 if i listed it buy it now)
$7.50 sale fee.
$2.41 in paypal fees.
I did the postage at cost-$4
so my $81 income cost $9.42 in fees and charges excluding the postage.
so i ended up with $67.50 and had to wait 4 days for my money to come from paypal

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Now maybe I am wrong but the maximum charge that Paypal charge is 2.4% so these figures don't add up, they do charge a $1 fee to get your money to your bank account ass well so a sale of $140 plus $16 for freight should be $3.75, so add the $1 to get it moved something is wrong, now lets look at how the banks charge both parties to use a credit card, buyer is charged a tansaction fee for using his/her card and the merchant is charged for using credit card facilities, as a buyer have a look at your next statement and have a look at the fees and charges even if you use internt banking the bank charges you for doing thier work

As both a buyer and seller on Ebay ithink paypal is great to buy with as it costs the buyer nothing to use (except what the bank charges you) and as a seller the costs are pretty comparible with what the banks charge so what does it really matter

And lets not start adding in the costs of listings and sale costs as they are seperate to the paypal bit and you will have to pay them to list no matter what payment system is used, thats how auction houses work

Jon

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I believe it is 2.4% plus a flagfall (about 30 cents?)

And for the record, Paypal fees are nowhere near credit card mechant fees. And read that as Paypal is a lot, lot more.

my merchant fees are less than my paypal fees

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Online BMW Mini Shop

Well there is a solution, that is don't use ebay, the buyer on ebay is not charged for using paypal, the merchant is charged as he is the one making the money, merchants are charging from 1%-2% for buying petrol at a lot of service stations and thats on top of what the buyer pays in fees to use there card to buy, no one is forcing you to use ebay but will your business survive without it, as a private buyer and seller I am happy with what i get from it and I am sure if you had to sell your goods soem other way and pay for the exposure to so many people you would be paying heaps more than you are now

Jon

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Roundies and Clubbies(except vans) are both ugly that is why I have Midas and a van
1293 Mini Midas Bronze,1275 Clubman van

Gee, maybe it would pay to open some sort of online store, where you don't have to pay ebay fees at all! Now there's an idea.



Plain and simply... not true.

It is very true, a web site online store is only as good as the advertisng telling people it exists just ask people like Harvey Norman, have a look at the big mini sales places overseas and they spend heaps of money on print media so pweople know about the re web sales, so Anto your nest point is

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Roundies and Clubbies(except vans) are both ugly that is why I have Midas and a van
1293 Mini Midas Bronze,1275 Clubman van

And Ebay is a very expensive form of advertising said online store, compared to other means. And don't forget, there are other forms of online 'advertising' available.

Ebay isn't a 'bad' place as it does provide you an avenue for new customers, but you only need to look at their past history of Ebay changes... each change resulting in less customers, and hence less listings. But as long as there are a handful of Ebay customers who don't know about your online store, you have to put at least some listings up, like it or not.

And anyway, this argument started about Paypal. I don't 'hate' it, but I don't like it being forced as the only option of payment, especially when a large majority of payments are via bank deposit which costs less.

ahhh i understand now

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Well its like saying that if you used your c.card to buy an item at a supermarket, they can just use those details to charge your account when you break something accidentaly.

I agree that Paypal are subject to Australian legislation, provided that you have the time and the wherewithal to hold them accountable. Have a read of the following for an interesting account on their experience with paypal from a seller;

http://www.audiolifeportrait.com/paypal.aspx

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