you don't need flash electrickery and gizmos to win Doogie.... you've got born talent. The rest of us need all the help we can get (speaking for me at least!)

Joe, Doogie might be alluding to various competition rules that prevent the use of fiddle brakes (which is what we're discussing) for production car classes - you might be relegated to compete against the specials, where no amount of fancy brakes will help you beat them

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Born talent you say Simon! You've seen me in Hay on a Friday night, no amount of talent pulls you out of the situation.

Doogie

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Hay, it's not about the car, it's not about the venue, it's about the people that come here. Peter Dwyer, Mayor of Hay NSW.

A cheap easy way is to use a gear shift assembly from a car like toyota camry, and mount the bottom ball into a sloted bracket. As you move the stick across it changes the pivot point on one of the brake cables. Then as you pull back on the lever it applies more pressure to one side. It is the same principle to dual master cylinders with balance bar that is used on race cars.

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I was thinking a switch under my hand brake... coming to a corner, you select a gear, then you reach for the brake... your going to be pulling it on anyway. One finger could flick the switch just before the hand brake comes on, then out of the corner you turn it off when you get the car straight again.

Having a button would mean you have one hand tied up through the corner. You would be pulling on the hbrake, turning, holding the button... too much for me. It has to be a leaver or switch to stay on, and it has to be where you hand already is when you want it to be on. On the steering wheel would be way to confusing... try and change radio stations in a ba falcon while cornering!!! I bet you will set cruise control! as soon as your off the foot brake it doesnt matter anyway, unlike a hydrolic setup where your braking untill you turn it off.

how about a ond holden high beams switch?!

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But you have'nt explained what you would be using this for, it's a waste for road use, and if you wanted to do motorkhana's with it, you would probably be classed in either production specails or the specails class.

Doogie

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Hay, it's not about the car, it's not about the venue, it's about the people that come here. Peter Dwyer, Mayor of Hay NSW.

that's what I was getting at earlier.... and if you tried to sneak in with it, someone would notice, and they'd black ban you

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couldn't you just figure out a way of using an old indicator switch on the stteering colum? almost like a limit switch for each direction. the switch could be on a coil spring around the colum so that it has give in it to allow for either more or less steering wheel rotation but stil remains on when the contacts are closed. when you turn the wheel, the switch activates the correct solenoid. then you brake. if you could hide it under the standard cover you would be laughing.

I was thinking of running an auto and fit a clutch pedal....

You stole my very thoughts. Very easy to set up and so blatantly obvious it would probably pass scrutineering without a problem.

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Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

My exact thoughts. It would all look so standard...

Years ago (early 80s) I did see a genuine Cooper S with an auto motor and box out of a 1300. He blew up his Cooper S motor and then he rolled his wifes Morris 1300. So he fitted the Auto motor and box to the Cooper S. He left the clutch pedal in place as an anti theft device (he screwed a light switch into the top of the master cylinder which he hooked to the start circuit, the clutch pedal had to be down for the key to work )

I bet his wife was happy with that..... I can just hear it "you blew up your engine!!" "you rolled my car!!" "you pinched my engine!!"

indicator stalks, autos with clutch pedals.... all fine to slip through scrutineering unnoticed, but other competitors would pick it while you were driving.

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I didn't say I'd do it, just that the thought occurred to me.

Actually I was thinking of fitting the landrover clutch slave to the clutch pedal and operating the rear brakes only with it. Piping would run from the original T piece near the master cylinder, through a relocated limit valve (moved from the rear subframe) through the landrover slave cylinder and on the rear brakes as normal. Pushing the "brake" pedal would operate both front and rear brakes. Pushing the "clutch" pedal would operate the rear brakes only. Not a left-right fiddle brakes system, but still probably illegal for competition.

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Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

I used to run front brakes off the pedal and rear brakes with the lever and I never got caught. (till now!) I won a few khanas with that setup.

nothing wrong with that.... supp regs for Hay just say it needs to operate on both back wheels equally, nothing about the mode of operation (hand/foot)



is that not allowed? what was the advantage?

I'm sure you'd have won anyway

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I dont really know why I want to do it, I think it might be fun! and its something I couldn't find any good info on. I think we have covered the topic quite well I have been thinking that if I put it on my van and want to play with motokhana (which I'm realy excited about) I may have to turbo the van, buy me some really nice tyres, and make everything that weighs anything removeable from the car for play days

Or just turn it off/disconnect it while I'm competing, as you said, everybody will know if I'm using it and I have no desire to cheat in events, that is just kinda low!

Or just compete with the specials.. its more about fun than winning, motokhana looks like too much fun to take seirously!

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