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I just want to be sure that if I go and spend a heap of cash on a tacho it will match my ignition and work as accurately as possible and I won't be up for conversion costs.

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For your intended purposes, either Tacho will work satisfactorily.


True, either type will work with a 29D dizzy, but as I said before (and Mick has alluded to as well) the older, RVI type is less accurate, less reliable and more prone to failure.

If buying a new tacho, keep in mind that it's almost impossible to buy a tach which operates in the way the RVI tachs do. You'll find everything will take a signal feed from the negative (points) side of the coil. This will work just fine with almost every form of ignition found on a Mini (possible exceptions being fully electronic, engine management systems on EFI cars).

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Great stuff, thanks for the info.....I am satisfied I can go "Tacho Shopping" armed with the info I need.

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Quote from Installation instructions -
Green Connect to switched ignition power source (+ve) via 3A fuse
Black Connect to groun. (-ve)
Red/White Connect to dash lamp power
Brown/slate used (hour meter only)
Signal input alternatives
White/Black Connect to tacho output of electronic ignition
Red/White Connect to negative side of ignition coil (distributor side)

I have a RVC tacho with points ignition.
Anyone wired one up?
Only require Green,black & Red/white?
Green to (-ve) side of coil?

Did this & stops engine from starting.
Any ideas please

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Firstly I haven't even got to fit a tacho to my current mini so any ideas I have are not tested.

Your installation instructions say "Green to ignition power source" then you say you put Green to -ve side of coil.....I think this is the problem area. I think the green should go to a power source via start switch and the Red/White wire is the signal input to the tacho.

Good luck, hope you get it sorted out

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I have a RVC tacho with points ignition.
Anyone wired one up?
Only require Green,black & Red/white?
Green to (-ve) side of coil?

Did this & stops engine from starting.
Any ideas please


Yep, the green wire is power to the tacho, it should either go to the POSITIVE side of the coil, or switched output from the ignition barrel (or better yet the switched side of the fuse block).

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Yes I agree. Didnt read it properly. Ignition source is power not coil. Oops

Edit - wired up correctly. All works well.

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Well after hours of searching, fooling around with wiring and getting nowhere with my Tacho I decided to put out an assistance call.

I have a Tacho from a 1972 MG Midget. It is an RVI 1433/00 and I have attached a picture of both the front and back of it. My Mini has what I was told is a 29D ignition system however the coil is an "electronic" type and the distributor is pointless. See pictures. I have tried every combination of connection I can think of and at no time did I get any movement from tacho. The only "effect" I have managed to get is the engine quits when I put the tacho in series across the coil connections.

Here are the pics to try to show my system.

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If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'd love to hear them.

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OK, this is how you do it.

The spade connector on the tach which is spot welded to the back casing is earth. The other spade connector should be connected to fused, switched power (connect this as described below).

The two bullet terminals are signal-in and signal-out. The way the RVI tach works is a little different to modern tachs; it senses the current drawn by the coil as it charges before each cylinder fires. These two terminals must be connected in series with the power feed to the coil.

This power feed to the coil comes from the switched side of the fuse block. I removed this wire, and made up a wire with a male spade terminal one end and bullet the other (I don't remember whether it was male or female now, you'll have to experiment to find out). This was attached to the coil power wire, and to the signal-out bullet terminal on the tach.

I then ran another new wire from the terminal on the fuse block to which the coil feed was connected, and ran this wire back to the tach and connected it to the spade terminal mentioned earlier, and ran a short loop to the signal-in bullet terminal.

Confused yet?

Basically, it's switched power from the fuse block to the tach power-in and signal-in, then tach signal-out to the coil power line which you detached from the fuse block.

Let me know if this is too confusing and I'll draw a diagram :)

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Simon,

You are a genius....tacho is working like a charm after incorporating your wiring plan. Thanks very much for your assistance. I am just annoyed that I am so stubborn and didn't ask the question earlier.

Thanks again mate,

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You are a genius....tacho is working like a charm after incorporating your wiring plan.


Awesome, glad to hear it 8)

Hope yours lasts longer than mine did, I got a couple of months out of mine before the transistor went cactus and I had to get it converted :(

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