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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:07 pm 
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if its pre 72 you dont need a compliance plate in NSW or QLD, not sure about other states.

You could lie, and state that its a 70 model. Otherwise youll need an engineers plate. Probably cost you about 100 bux for an hour of the guys time.

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If the car has been previously registered you don't need a compliance plate.


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Vicroads make it very hard if you can't prove in some way the car has been previously registered (papers, old rego label etc) and it doesn't appear on the computer because it has not been registered since 1988. :(

However, a compliance plate is not a legal requirement for registration. They are often lost or stolen or simply not fitted.

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Morris 1100 wrote:
If the car has been previously registered you don't need a compliance plate.

Okay...... and yes I agree.
But what happens if the missing compliance plate is on some other dude's car now, and that is registered? :P

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drmini in aust wrote:
Morris 1100 wrote:
If the car has been previously registered you don't need a compliance plate.

Okay...... and yes I agree.
But what happens if the missing compliance plate is on some other dude's car now, and that is registered? :P

He is in very big trouble!
You would not be in any trouble, they would just issue a new number to fit to your car.


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Good to know- my `79 Moke has lost its plate, but the numbers on the rad shroud are legible. :D

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drmini in aust wrote:
Good to know- my `79 Moke has lost its plate, but the numbers on the rad shroud are legible. :D


My Moke is also missing the compliance plate Doc. But the legible numbers on the shroud were enough. But I had to get a letter from the AOMC confirming previous rego details, as it wasn't on the VicRoads computer.

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drmini in aust wrote:
Morris 1100 wrote:
If the car has been previously registered you don't need a compliance plate.

Okay...... and yes I agree.
But what happens if the missing compliance plate is on some other dude's car now, and that is registered? :P


They should be going off the actual body no. stamped in to the body, not some crappy bit of tin foil pop rivetted on somewhere. I have seen 1, from factory, that had 2 digits interposed (so in otherwords wrong number).


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GT mowog wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
Morris 1100 wrote:
If the car has been previously registered you don't need a compliance plate.

Okay...... and yes I agree.
But what happens if the missing compliance plate is on some other dude's car now, and that is registered? :P


They should be going off the actual body no. stamped in to the body, not some crappy bit of tin foil pop rivetted on somewhere. I have seen 1, from factory, that had 2 digits interposed (so in otherwords wrong number).


The number on my plate is different than the body number - a 3 was read as a 5 in the translation :roll:

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GT mowog wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
Morris 1100 wrote:
If the car has been previously registered you don't need a compliance plate.

Okay...... and yes I agree.
But what happens if the missing compliance plate is on some other dude's car now, and that is registered? :P


They should be going off the actual body no. stamped in to the body, not some crappy bit of tin foil pop rivetted on somewhere. I have seen 1, from factory, that had 2 digits interposed (so in otherwords wrong number).

I agree, of course.
My point here was, someone may have taken the compliance plate (off my Moke) and restamped the body of another (stolen?) Moke to match, and registered it.

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drmini in aust wrote:
GT mowog wrote:
drmini in aust wrote:
Morris 1100 wrote:
If the car has been previously registered you don't need a compliance plate.

Okay...... and yes I agree.
But what happens if the missing compliance plate is on some other dude's car now, and that is registered? :P


They should be going off the actual body no. stamped in to the body, not some crappy bit of tin foil pop rivetted on somewhere. I have seen 1, from factory, that had 2 digits interposed (so in otherwords wrong number).

I agree, of course.
My point here was, someone may have taken the compliance plate (off my Moke) and restamped the body of another (stolen?) Moke to match, and registered it.

When you turn up with your Moke and go to register it and the numbers are already taken they will just issue you with a new number and maybe ask questions to the owner of the other Moke.


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Having had my cars registered in NSW for many years, my view is that they don't seem to pay much attention to body/car/chassis numbers. I have two English cars and they wouldn't accept the real chassis numbers (removable plates) so on the S I used the FE number (unique but not recorded anywhere) and on the other I used the body number (also unique but not available to anyone without the Heritage Cert).

NSW Rego were happy to accept both without question. The fact that the cars were UK sourced was irrelevant to them - they're both old Minis.

They really only cared about the engine nos. When I swapped the 1071 for a GT motor I had to take the car to the police who certified that the engine was in the car and not on the stolen list. Other then that no one was interesed.

Kinda like a mate in the States who has what is probably the only Austin Healy Sprite sedan in the world - well he had to get an ID plate from somewhere :)

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This is what I recieved after asking what to do if I buy a car with no compliance plate.

If a vehicle doesn't have a compliance plate, it can only be registered if:

the vehicle was previously registered in NSW the vehicle was imported and has previously been registered in another State or Territory for at least two years the vehicle is not required to be fitted with compliance plate

Vehicles in these categories can be registered at any motor registry if the customer presents relevant documentary evidence such as a previous certificate of registration. If the vehicle has been modified, an engineer's certificate is also required.

Customers may request a search of records to prove that the vehicle was previously registered in NSW

Vehicles without compliance plates and vehicles never registered in Australia, but clearly identifiable as belonging to a model manufactured in Australia, can be registered if the customer provides a letter of compliance issued by an authorised representative of the manufacturer. The letter of compliance must state that the vehicle complies with all the applicable ADRs when the vehicle was manufactured. Dealers or distributors are not authorised to sign a letter of compliance.


You should call the RTA Contact Centre on 13 2213 to do the check and discuss further

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Sort of seems like they won't let me do it as it hasn't been Rego'd in a long time I'm guessing.


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You need to find the age of the van , if it's before 1972 it never had a compliance plate to start with , only a BMC ID or Build plate with the details for the factory to track the car . Can you put some photo's up of the shell so we can try and figure out an age for it , also check if there are any numbers on the firewall at all .

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I have no numbers anywhere, I won't be able to get pics for a while as it isn't at my place. It has ridges in the roof and has no vents but I am unsure what else to look for(not sure if it will help) but I may just give up and make it a hill climb van.


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