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Yikes. I'll be taking a closer look I think.

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Are you sure the split pin was wide enough in the first place if it could work loose? Generally I try to put the biggest split pin in place that I can.

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Pretty big ones now in place on L&R. The previous ones weren't what you'd call substantial.

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Split pins were in place. Twas just the nut that was moveable, allowing the whole shaft to wobble about. Sorted now.


How can the nut be loose but the split pin in place? Not torqued properly in the first place?



Not necessarily. You see, things like wheel bearings tend to wear out. This allows free play which has the effect of allowing the inner race of the outer bearing to wear against the disc flange inside, thus causing more free play. Things go from bad to worse if the slack is not attended to by either reducing the width of the inner spacer, or fitting a completely new set of bearings with the new spacer.

Obviously, with excessive free play, the nut on the shaft will become loose.

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smac wrote:
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Split pins were in place. Twas just the nut that was moveable, allowing the whole shaft to wobble about. Sorted now.


How can the nut be loose but the split pin in place? Not torqued properly in the first place? In that case it's been loose (and fretting) since it was put on. Perhaps not enough to feel/hear, but loose. The reason you suddenly felt it is because something is now missing some metal....


This happened to the Moke two weeks ago-the "missing metal" was a broken conical washer.The noise while driving is exactly what you have described :shock:

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AEG163job wrote:

Not necessarily. You see, things like wheel bearings tend to wear out. This allows free play which has the effect of allowing the inner race of the outer bearing to wear against the disc flange inside, thus causing more free play. Things go from bad to worse if the slack is not attended to by either reducing the width of the inner spacer, or fitting a completely new set of bearings with the new spacer.

Obviously, with excessive free play, the nut on the shaft will become loose.


From 150ft/lb to 'finger tight' just from bearings wearing? Na'uh.


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smac wrote:
Cooper_Matrikon wrote:
Split pins were in place. Twas just the nut that was moveable, allowing the whole shaft to wobble about. Sorted now.


How can the nut be loose but the split pin in place? Not torqued properly in the first place? In that case it's been loose (and fretting) since it was put on. Perhaps not enough to feel/hear, but loose. The reason you suddenly felt it is because something is now missing some metal....


GT mowog wrote:

If the hub, bearing, CV, Driveflange, Conical Washer and / or nut is stuffed (which is likely), it would only be a waste of a good split pin.



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Are you sure the split pin was wide enough in the first place if it could work loose? Generally I try to put the biggest split pin in place that I can.


Sorry to say Nick, that it is actually doing the nut up properly in the first place that keeps it tight, not the split pin. I tend to think of them more as a 'tell tale' that the bearing is on it's way.

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AEG163job wrote:

Not necessarily. You see, things like wheel bearings tend to wear out. This allows free play which has the effect of allowing the inner race of the outer bearing to wear against the disc flange inside, thus causing more free play. Things go from bad to worse if the slack is not attended to by either reducing the width of the inner spacer, or fitting a completely new set of bearings with the new spacer.

Obviously, with excessive free play, the nut on the shaft will become loose.


From 150ft/lb to 'finger tight' just from bearings wearing? Na'uh.


I have seen hundreds (yeap hundreds) do that from bearings, and quite a few from bearing and worn hubs too :wink:

The Hubs wear if you don't keep a close check on the wheel bearings in the first instance. The bearings 'pick up' from either wear, or over-greasing, which causes them to over-heat, and then the outer cone spins, then it's all over. Can ruin the shaft on the CV too........

Oh, and the latest CVs are torqued to 193 ft/lbs, if only torqued to 150 ft/lbs you can expect trouble like all these ^^^^^^^^

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