kiwiinwgtn wrote:
why should fluid be pumped one way ? (genuine question)
there is brake bleeding kit you can by and it pumps the air back into the brake cylinder
I will post the link when I find it
Looks like cleverr idea to me..
99% of Automotive (CAR) Brake Master Cylinders have a Residual Pressure Valve. This will make it at best very very slow to try to bleed the system backwards, with some it will be impossible and / or you risk damage to the Master Cylinder. Also 95%+ of the water logged Brake Fluid found in the system will be at the Slave / wheel cylinders, so bleeding it backwards pushes all this crap fluid - along with any loose rust / corrosion - through the rest of the system, including the pressure valve in the rear subframe, brake booster if you have one and of course, the Master Cylinder. You can never be sure that all the moisture has gone. Bleeding in the method recommended by 99%+ of manufacturers (that is from the top down) will be the most effective at removing most of the water logged fluid.
No workshop manual I've ever read suggests that it is acceptable to bleed the system from the wheel cylinder / caliper to the Master Cylinder. I have a fleet of light trucks (and have done since 1986) that have had either Hydraulic or air over hydraulic. These all have residual pressure valves in the system and the factory workshop manuals are very specific that the fluid be bled from the MC to the wheels. These have been Dodges, Toyotas, Isuzi and Hino. Granted, it may be possible that some say it's OK to go the other way, but I've not come across any. The medium and heavy trucks don't ever need any bleeding - they are an air system.
But, the original question was directed at doing mini brakes, not trucks or light aircraft (which have a completely different duty of brake to automotive types and some of these use hydraulic oil, not brake fluid), for these most of the time, I use a Gunsons EasyBleed. Great, clean, fast, very cheap. Oh, and won't contaminate the system with oil from an oil can.