Sorry i wasn't very clear.. i meant fitting a non retractable lap sash belt.

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Tim
Dusk Blue
1964 850

Thanks for the replies I have a bit of research to do , I used to have a 3 point harness in my 70 S in the 70's and I liked it so I thought i would do the same while I put this car back together, it had inertia reels in it when I bought it and I knew that that was not correct so....

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I dont know if this small town NSW only or its the rules now. We wanted to fit a rear seat belt to my wife's 1100S when our youngest son was smaller. None of the accessory places would order in or sell us one saying it had to be supplied through a accredited seat belt fitter.

The first 850 I had did not have seat belts and from memory it didn't have the mounting points either (long time ago now so I may be wrong). So, is that still the requirements for a car that does not have seat belts fitted as standard. ???

Mike

Im pretty sure you dont have to fit them if they werent standard...Unless you carry a child under 15.

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Tim
Dusk Blue
1964 850

I bought both static Klippan front belts and inertia reel ones too from Robbo's Spares about 5 years ago.

I just Googled- it seems `everybody' sells them still.
Delivered to your door...
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=klipp ... e&ie=UTF-8

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

It wasn't a matter of "not having too" although I think at the time if they wern't fitted as original equipment then you dont need to fit them regardless of the age.

In our case the 1100S was fully registered and we carried our son in it and we wanted him safely restrained.

Mike

Im pretty sure you dont have to fit them if they werent standard...Unless you carry a child under 15.

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Tim
Dusk Blue
1964 850

Did a 63 come with belts, it has the anchor points in the B pillar.

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No belts, from `65? they were optional.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Seat belts are interesting. As someone who learnt to drive in an era when there were no seat belts except maybe in race cars its amazing how the culture has changed.

As the Doc has said they became optional about 1965 and the general feeling was that was only for "nancys" and then when they became compulsory there was a huge outcry along the lines of invasions of privacy, police state rules and revenue raising. Many people had razors and other cutting devices strapped to their selt belts so they could free themselves if they became trapped.

All sorts of bodies, such as the trucking industry, taxi drivers sort and were granted exemptions from the need to wear seat belts. It amazes me today to see taxi drivers requiring passengers to wear seat belts but yet drive unrestrained themselves.

How things have changed iover the last half century. In the 1960s the average road toll in NSW was about 3000 people with a lot fewer cars. Today there is an outcry if the road toll broaches 500 deaths with many more cars on the road. The reduction of deaths is not entirely due to the introdcution of seat belts but they have been a significant part of it !!

Off topic, but this has always confused me
I can't find an answer anywhere. It's not like they're constantly getting in and out of the car..

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You're so square
Baby I don't care

We did a 3 week coach tour of UK and Ireland last year. Everybody on the bus had to have a seatbelt on. Including the tour guide. Except the driver.
It was a brand new coach too.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Under section 2 of the Road Rules 2008 (NSW):

2) The driver must wear the seatbelt properly adjusted and fastened unless the driver is:
(a) reversing the vehicle, or

(b) exempt from wearing a seatbelt under rule 267.

HOWEVER,

(2–1) This rule does not apply to:

(b) the driver of a motor vehicle being operated as a taxi-cab under the authority of a licence under the Passenger Transport Act 1990.

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Adam. hence a taxi driver is not legally obligated to wear seatbelts. All the subrules are there for anyone who wants to see. Interestingly passengers in emergency vehicles such as Police cars do not need to wear belts either.

Now back on topic.

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Anybody who doesn't wear a seatbelt these days (with all modern cars = laminated windscreens) is a far ken idiot. WTF are cab drivers exempt?

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.