In relation to WA - it was announced only recently in Victoria, that the WA authorities are now recognising interstate Club Permit registrations, so owners can now legally drive their Club Permit cars to WA without the threat of being fined for having an unregistered vehicle.
In relation to news from NSW. It's cause for celebration, but I hope the DMV have learnt from the Victorian experience and will close the loopholes that have allowed wide-spread abuse of the scheme. I agree with the 30-year eligibility criteria, but there are other issues such as vehicle modifications and club responsibilities to look at.

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Curly
'64 Cooper 'S' (Group Nb spec)
'67 Mini Marcos GT www.mm7056.wordpress.com

You don't have to anymore. Maybe you could enquire with the MCCNSW registrar.


Every club in NSW with conditional rego have very similar rules for usage -
For events organised by your Club
For events organised by another Club or recognised community organization, provided an official invitation has been received and documented by your Club
For servicing (obtain fuel, check tyre pressures, charge battery, check brakes etc) within a short distance from the place of garaging
For the inspection of the vehicle
For longer journeys where necessary, and where approved in advance by the Club's Secretary or Registrar

In this months MCCNSW magazine there are over 25 coming events listed that you could drive your car to.



You're entitled to your opinion. Here's mine - I've been an active member of the MCCNSW for over 20 years. The club has offered me an opportunity to go motor racing, make life long friends, give my young teenage children the opportunity to learn race craft skills and the enjoyment of mortsport competition and enjoy numerous social events I would not have had access to if I wasn't a member. The introduction of the historic rego scheme has given my family an opportunity to keep our Minis on the road at a reduced cost. I currently have 3 cars on club plates, this will increase to 5 in the new year. It's a great scheme that works for us.



95%??

If you find the usage rules too restrictive then put your car on full rego. Simple.

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Julie.............

I only seen 2 minis and a moke in the sprite club display at the Sydney British day last Sunday and only 1 was on historic plates I'd say that would be .01% of all the cars on there section of the field

Any make of car can join any car club that's why there was a 66 vc valiant at the British day this year and a HQ Holden at the 2013 one in with the Morris club I think it was

If you don't want to join a club with one make of car there are clubs like the old social car club and others around that will take any make of car

There was an article in unique cars magazine last year about the system in Victoria. Now that you could drive your modified classic car 100 days a year, the number of club members had increased greatly, and the number of club plated cars had increased by a huge amount too. What they were finding was the amount of active members who came along to events was shrinking, despite membership increasing.

So most new members were only using the new system to get cheap rego, and weren't actually interested in going to club events. (This kind of defeats the purpose of being in a club?). That's why some clubs have rules like you need to be a member for 12 months first, or you need to come to a certain number of events a year...

That said I've been a member of a club in NSW for a couple of years on full rego, and I'm hoping to make use of this when the rego expires in April. 60 days a year would be plenty for me!

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Its great for us out in the regionals. There's a 300 klms drive to Sydney's best classic car events, but I'm still keen to use my car as it should. There's always the mountain runs.

I wonder how the 3rd party will be worked out? Nominally as one might only use it for 1/5th of the year, then the 3rd party risk exposure should be proportional, but NSW transport authorities never fail to surprise...

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SooperDooperMiniCooperExpertEngineering

All garage work involves equal measures of enthusiasm, ingenuity and a fair degree of irresponsibility.

I agree 'Curly'. The number of people you see driving around abusing the system is amazing. By that I mean businesses putting old cars on club plates and using them for cheap rego on their business cars which is against the rules of private use only. Only yesterday I saw a 4WD on club plates towing a Jims Mowing trailer doing the mowing rounds. I hope a few don't ruin it for many. I told my wife we need to buy another three minis because 4 x 90 day permits = $568 or 1 x normal reg = $771! There are plenty of people around doing that too!

Here are the vic guidlelines.

Responsibilities and obligations of club permit holders.
Club permit holders must:

•Ensure that the vehicle is only used for private use and is not used for commercial use
•Ensure they are familiar with their particular club’s requirements for club permit holders
•Ensure they are familiar with the log book requirements
•Maintain their vehicles in a manner which ensures that the vehicle is in a “safe” condition for use on a highway
•Present their vehicle for periodic safety checks if prescribed by their club, or in the case of street rods, if prescribed by the Australian Street Rod Federation
•Maintain financial membership of the club at all times whilst holding a club permit
•Ensure that the log book and permit is carried in the vehicle at all times the vehicle is in use
•Ensure that the number plate(s) and windscreen label as issued by VicRoads are correctly displayed on the vehicle at all times when the vehicle is in use

New requirements commencing 31 January 2015:
•When signing new club permit applications, club safety officers/scrutineers will be required to complete a Vehicle Eligibility and Standards Declaration form declaring that the vehicle is eligible, safe for use on the road and that it meets the applicable requirements for the category of vehicle for which the club permit is sought.
•Initial club permit applications (not renewals) for vehicles manufactured after 31 December 1948 will need to be accompanied by a current certificate of roadworthiness.
•Initial club permit applications (not renewals) will need to be accompanied with a document of proof of ownership or management of the vehicle.
•For pre-1949 vehicles, clubs will continue to conduct their own safety inspection (which may be a certificate of roadworthiness or a club safety inspection based on VicRoads’ guidelines).
•New modification guidelines specified in the Guidelines for modifications to vehicles operated under Victoria’s Club Permit – Vehicle Standards Information No. 33 (VSI33) [PDF 296 kb] apply.
•If an initial club permit application is submitted for a vehicle that is modified outside of the appropriate modification guidelines, a Vehicle Assessment Signatory Scheme (VASS) approval certificate covering the modifications must be provided with the permit application.
•An “M” club permit plate will be issued to identify modified vehicles where a VASS certificate has been provided.
•Clubs are required to maintain dated photographs of vehicles entering the club permit scheme in accordance with the new Club Permit Agreement.

90 days fee $142 45 days fee $73


https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/registr ... mit-scheme

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Flute - 68 MK I Cooper S
Member: VMCI #2474
Member: International Mini Model Collectors Club

So, if my mini is custom... Like, not just a little bit... Club rego would not normally be an option, because it is for historic vehicles only?
But this trial sounds as though they are planning to make an exemption to that rule for modified vehicles?

Is it possible at all with the current club rego laws to get club rego on a fully customised vehicle? Or is normal rego the only way to go?

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WD40'll fix it!
If it don't, use a big hammer!

Sorry if I'm being too lazy to read the fine print..... but....
Does this mean it costs $560 if you want to be able to use the car for a whole year???

And.. can you give us a brief guide to "allowable" mods......and does the last bit mean that modified vehicles are allowed ..and if so, how much modification is allowable...

I find the NSW rules quite reasonable ..and cheap. However, I think it very much depends on the Club's attitude ..and ours are quite positive.

Cheers, Ian

Thanks PDJ, obviously you have not made any recent enquiries about club plates to MCCNSW or attempted to read the rules as you would have been informed or read about the rule changes indeed if you were a member you would have been told of the changes in the clubs magazine , as for "no concessions " what about the fact that it only costs those on club plates about $62 a year as against $8-900 a year for normal rego , yes there are some restrictions but if these don't suit YOU then don't take advantage of this scheme.

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That's why it's good to be.............ME

I'm pretty happy with the NSW system as it stands now.
If they change it, the devil is in the details. Like, is it going to cost us MORE??

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If I was in the MCCNSW and wanted to take a longer journey what would be the process?

Take a Chill Pill

The "no concessions" was with reference to a previous NSWMCC Member stating that after their membership had lapsed they where told they would have to wait 12 months before they could go back on Historic Rego.

Also please don't make assumptions about me.
I currently have 1 car on Historic plates and eventually I will have 3 cars on Historic plates.
I am more than happy with my current club. Non of the members has a bad word to say about the club. The club has had zero members leave and the club I am in does not suffer an infamous reputation.

I have talked to people at shows, mini mechanics workshops, general runs and probably the biggest mini event of the year the Rylstone Classic and I have met a lot of people who have been members of the MCCNSW and have subsequently left for very similar reasons.
This is what I have experienced.

Now, my opinion (please note the difference between option and experience Kyoda) is the the RMS should work towards having a 90 day logbook on Historic Vehicles subject to an annual inspection
by a licensed inspector (i.e. pink slip inspector). Vehicle eligibility will be determined by the RMS and no "club" affiliation is required.

This way people who want to enjoy their classic with friend who have something of a different make can do so. Or if you don't want to socialise with others then you can do that too.Not everyone is into the same make or model car.

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WD40'll fix it!
If it don't, use a big hammer!

This IS a very serious and LEGAL matter that appears to be treated too lightly. I'm sure these comments are well intended BUT don't underestimate the responsibilities of the clubs' registrars. If you were in this position, would you be happy for some of the less that responsible members driving all over the place and then the dreaded call asking "do you know this guy and do you condone their actions?" Let's see the fine detail first, respect the club registrars & have open communication with them first - that's how the members of my club operate.

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71 MG Midget - 1298cc - Sebring Bonnet & Lenham GTO rear in Jag BRG + 14in Chrome wires.