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I saw a riced yellow fiat 500 today... mags, clear lights, rear hatch raised off body to allow ventilation like a veedub :D dunno what it sounded like, I was going the other way.


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Marvin wrote:
I saw a riced yellow fiat 500 today... mags, clear lights, rear hatch raised off body to allow ventilation like a veedub :D dunno what it sounded like, I was going the other way.

With only 2 cylinders, they sound like 1/2 a veedub. And go that way too. :lol:
ps. my bro' has one. :lol:

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So Jill are you saying that:

1. Girls don't masturbate?
2. BOVs need to vent into the atmosphere to be effective?

:wink:


1. I dont recall saying that ;)
2. I didnt say that either... :roll:

ok, let me clarify. I see "wank factor" as a purely masculine triat. Not sure why, but I do. I prefer to call it rice..
I see your point, yes BOVs that vent to atmosphere would be classed as "wank factor".. if its a guy.. I have one coz I think its cute... or rice.. girls perspective I guess.

Lets not go into the technicalities of guys vs girls masturbation techniques :roll:

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Also if you crash, the timer keeps the engine running.


That's a pretty interesting point, I never thought of that........But.....doesn't the timer only engage once you kill the ingition?


it also depends on "how bad" you crash.. Id guess most prangs end in a brake lockup and subsequent stalling.. its not gonna help you then

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jill200sx wrote:
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Also if you crash, the timer keeps the engine running.


That's a pretty interesting point, I never thought of that........But.....doesn't the timer only engage once you kill the ingition?


it also depends on "how bad" you crash.. Id guess most prangs end in a brake lockup and subsequent stalling.. its not gonna help you then


actually i have read stories of guys driving along, and for whatever reason spotted smoke coming from the engine bay. they stopped on the side of the road, turned the ignition off and removed the keys. opened bonnet - there was a great deal of fire and the car eventually burned to death, the fire was so hot the chrome wheels melted. the only reason they came up wth that it shouldve happened (the fire had two fire extinguishers emptied on it) was that the guy had something like 720cc injectors and had his turbotimer set to run for 30sec. 30sec of fuel thru 720cc injectors is more than enough to get a big fire going...


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A turbo timer will not save the turbo if the engine stops because of a minor mechanical problem like the coil wire falling off or running out of fuel during a full throttle blast. Turbo timers are for trucks.
What will work is an accumulator. :wink:
It will suply oil to the turbo after the the motor stops.


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Location: thornleigh sydney...round crnr from suzitech!!!!
my mates are rice boys!

vrrrm pssstt.....vrrrrm psssstt....vrrrrm pssstt,
(i prefer full plumb back....plus its legal in NSW!)

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(i prefer full plumb back....plus its legal in NSW!)


Yeah whats the point of wasting the compressed air 8) might as well use it... ? i got no idea haha

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Morphias, i suggest you check Jill's site and click on her car to see whether her 200sx is all "show" and no go............. i think you'll be eating some humble pie sooner than you think :wink:


Checked it ages back...she is a good driver, but the spider decals all over the car are just 'rice' value...could be good for 10HP though, but I have never seen before and after dyno sheets. :P

I never made any sort of comment about the car being all show and no go. I have driven a number of 200SX's that have been riced up and they go like the clappers. Light up the rear bags at any time in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. The car doesn't need BOV to atmospere, an exhaust end can that you can park your mini in and 20" rims to achieve this performance.

No humble pie here... :D

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Rice is just bling taken a step or two too far :wink:


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It was quite funny talking to this guy in the trade hall at the Summernats a few years ago. He was from some Turbo specialist (can't remember who sorry), and we were asking him about what we could get done to a Turbo Cosworth motor my mate brought out for his escort.

One topic we brought up was blow off valves. Not knowing much about them I just assumed they all made that pooooosh noise. We asked the guy if it was mandatory to have one. He said that it is but not to worry, you can EASILY get rid of that sound (I think he said something about venting it out through the exhaust or something - anyhow it's not important to this point).

The bit that made me laugh is the amount of people this guy says line up and pay EXTRA to have this noise - actually putting on trumpets etc to highlight it and make it louder!! That to me is sadder than sad. Man or woman that is PURE WANK IMHO!!

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jill200sx wrote:
Zizzle wrote:
So Jill are you saying that:

1. Girls don't masturbate?
2. BOVs need to vent into the atmosphere to be effective?

:wink:


1. I dont recall saying that ;)
2. I didnt say that either... :roll:

ok, let me clarify. I see "wank factor" as a purely masculine triat. Not sure why, but I do. I prefer to call it rice..
I see your point, yes BOVs that vent to atmosphere would be classed as "wank factor".. if its a guy.. I have one coz I think its cute... or rice.. girls perspective I guess.

Lets not go into the technicalities of guys vs girls masturbation techniques :roll:


I am probably one of the last people you need to explain the workings of a BOV to. To blow off to atmospere is unecessary and when it emits the stereotypical "puuuusssssy" (hence why I call them "pussy valves". :) )sound, it is just plain deliberate and done with the intention of attracting attention. Unfortunately, it seems the owners of the pussy valves don't realise that the attention that they get from most people is not "Wow, that's cool!" It is more often than not "What a f#$%ing tosser!"

To say that girls don't do it for the wank factor is crap. I work with a girl that has a seriously riced up S15. She admits to it being rice and that rice = wank factor. You think rice = cute? WTF? Each to there own I guess... :?

Turbo timers are for diesel engine. More of an issue on petrol cars is that almost NONE of the turbo timers on the market raise the engine off idle. As a result, there is no ehaust manifold pressure, which means the turbo is not spinning, which means there is no cool air going through the turbo which means the turbo timer is a waste of time. Yes, oil is still running through the turbo, but it is only half the story. We are talking about a turbine that spins at up to 200,000rpm (yes, two hundred thousand!) with blades that get white hot.

I can't think of a time when you would need a turbo timer in a car anyway. No matter how hard you drive the car, you always drive slowly for a couple of minutes before you turn the engine off. This is ample time for the turbo to cool down. No-one comes straight of a race track at high speed, comes to a screeching halt and shuts the engine off. For normal driving of 80kph or less, no cooling time is required before turning the car off.

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MrBob wrote:
It was quite funny talking to this guy in the trade hall at the Summernats a few years ago. He was from some Turbo specialist (can't remember who sorry), and we were asking him about what we could get done to a Turbo Cosworth motor my mate brought out for his escort.

One topic we brought up was blow off valves. Not knowing much about them I just assumed they all made that pooooosh noise. We asked the guy if it was mandatory to have one. He said that it is but not to worry, you can EASILY get rid of that sound (I think he said something about venting it out through the exhaust or something - anyhow it's not important to this point).


The system he was describing is called a plumbed back BOV. It (generally) vents into the waste side of the exhaust system and is inaudible unless you know what to listen for.

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The bit that made me laugh is the amount of people this guy says line up and pay EXTRA to have this noise - actually putting on trumpets etc to highlight it and make it louder!! That to me is sadder than sad. Man or woman that is PURE WANK IMHO!!


AMEN!!!

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I never thought posting what I thought was a good tongue-in-cheek piece like that joke would stir up so many emotions!! Geez those ricers are a sensitive lot :P :lol:

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Big intercooler - no I am not making up for penis size :) (my other car is a mini and I ride a baby 250 roadbike) I live in central/north Qld (hot as) and my turbo can handle up to 900hp - I'd like the air to be as chilled as possible as it is forced through.


I don't have a problem with bigger IC's, just the one's that are the whole front of the car and stick like dog's balls. You can go bigger and still be discreet. Also, the bigger the IC, the more lag there is due to the greater area that has to be pressurised to achieve boost. This is further exaggerated by using massive piping for the IC plumbing. Everything has to be matched, but I see to much competition on bragging rights for who has the bigget guage pipes running to their IC.

Sure the turbo is capable of 900HP, but what HP are you currently putting out at wheels? What sort of car is it? Do you have the injectors, fuel pump, pistons, conrods, ECU, etc, to match the 900HP that the turbo is capable of?

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Big rims - I have 18x10's on the rear 18x9.5 on the front and they still look tiny (wide body kit) - admitidly 18" wheels on excels makes me feel all sad inside.


Sorry, I should have been more finite, but it was a rant. :) Big rims on a decent sized car like an S15, R32, WRX, etc, are cool, but on a riced up stocko Lancer, Excel, etc, is just dumb.

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I have a 3" zaust.. Any bigger is silly as it causes back pressure problems.


8) Do you have a milo tin on the end? ;)

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BOV that vent to atmosphere - hmm, toughie - my engine management and turbo setup isn't suited to a plum back style and rather than risk my turbo making a big metal grating noise I'll keep my BOV and setup as it is. Some plum backs still make pshing noises though!!


But you can use a BOV that vents to atmospere that is almost silent and have exactly the same performance.

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I'd love a Forrester, very nice cars.. I was trying to talk the boss into leasing one for work. He didn't buy it though.


It puts a smile on my face every time I eat a ricer for breakfast with a soccer mum car. :)

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Gee I jsut read this back, I didn't realise I was so touchy!


In the words of Al Pacino....Fargedaboudit! :D 8)

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