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Iwannamini

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Your Austin will be ok 100% as is or with 850, 998 or 1100 motor. :D

Club plates within NSW with a bit more depth :?

The NSW RTA after many years of negotiation with the council of motor clubs has allowed car clubs to use the conditional registration scheme (FORMALLY for FORK LIFTS AND PLANT MACHINERY) for classic cars.

The RTA put forward a guide line that clubs affiliated with the Council of Motor Clubs wishing to offer club plates can follow and or use to develope their own guidelines which are then submited to the RTA for ratification. :)

Most clubs have written their own rules and guidelines placing more rescrictions on vehicle use than the RTA guidelines originally suggested which is of coarse their choice. :shock:

eg some clubs have a 5 mile or 8 KM testing range based on the old RTA guideline. Amended RTA guidelines state a reasonable testing range with no minimal or maximun test KM's. :cry:

Some clubs have seen the advantages of just using the RTA guideline which in reality allows greater usage of your club plate car overall. :D

Their is constant discussions within the RTA and between the RTA and the Council Of Motor Clubs to abolish the club plate scheme within NSW for a number of reasons, one of these reasons being. :evil:

Originally the scheme was negotiated by the CMC with the idea that to restore a historic car 1895 to 1959 or at the time a vehicle older than 30 years to original conditon, was not only an important exercise to preserve automotive history but because these restorations where expensive a discount registration sheme would be benificial to ensure these kinds of restorations continued offering insurance and registration discounts after spending mega dollars througout the restoration. 8)

Currently some clubs are trying to take advantage of these rules. :oops:

This is an example not based on actual individual clubs I just plucked Ford but it could be any club so don't shoot me.

eg. A T model ford restored to original condtion as close to origianl manufactured specification is what the scheme was originally negotiated for. But some clubs have T bucket hot rods on conditional registration which is not what the scheme was originally negotiated to cover.

It would be up to an association of Hot Rod clubs to aproach the RTA and negotiate for hotrods older than 30 years to be included in this scheme which is what the CMC did for classic cars.

As far as mini related clubs are concerned the MCC with it's 40 year history and the AMVC have had many committee members involved with the schemes inception helping to make it into reality. :D

A great scheme to many people who own one two many classic cars. :D

Lets hope we never lose it.

Big thanks goes to those that have helped make it a reality

Steve Eaton
President
Austin Motor Vehicle Club of NSW

PS sorry for raving on its late and I just had a beer.

Cheers


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Steve wrote:
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In Brief Your Austin will be ok 100% as is or with 850, 998 or 1100 motor. :D


:shock: what about with a 1275..??


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IwannaMini wrote:
:shock: what about with a 1275..??
I'd check with Buggsy, but I think that's OK.

The idea of the scheme is to have cars original, or modified as they were in that period. I'm sure there were people 30 years ago putting 1275's in!!

Amything that can be proven to be a "Period Modification" is allowed.
Aarons Wood and Picket wheel arches are a good example.
If anyone sees any old car magazines at a swapmeet or something, they are a good investment - pictures of a modified car from the 60's or 70's is great proof of a mod you want to get approved.

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hmm
i wouldnt mind getting our 3rd car (or 2nd mini) onto club plates..
but atm it is far from orginal! exhaust for one thing..eep! its faarrr too loud 4 me anyway..
hmm i think i hav a spare exorst that would go nicely!
ooh and i hav an electronic ignition! but its dam original! hehe my dad bought it for his sprite, probly bout 30yrs ago! hehehe!
as for the other bits..they gotta be changed..
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1275 is not an issue with club plate register but would need to be checked with RTA as increasing an 850 to 1275 may have be difficult as it may compromise new legislation.

Aarons van was 1100 to 1275.

Mini club is now very easy going with their rules

steve


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:59 pm 
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Steve wrote:
Iwannamini

In Brief

Your Austin will be ok 100% as is or with 850, 998 or 1100 motor. :D

Club plates within NSW with a bit more depth :?

The NSW RTA after many years of negotiation with the council of motor clubs has allowed car clubs to use the conditional registration scheme (FORMALLY for FORK LIFTS AND PLANT MACHINERY) for classic cars.

The RTA put forward a guide line that clubs affiliated with the Council of Motor Clubs wishing to offer club plates can follow and or use to develope their own guidelines which are then submited to the RTA for ratification. :)

Most clubs have written their own rules and guidelines placing more rescrictions on vehicle use than the RTA guidelines originally suggested which is of coarse their choice. :shock:

eg some clubs have a 5 mile or 8 KM testing range based on the old RTA guideline. Amended RTA guidelines state a reasonable testing range with no minimal or maximun test KM's. :cry:

Some clubs have seen the advantages of just using the RTA guideline which in reality allows greater usage of your club plate car overall. :D

Their is constant discussions within the RTA and between the RTA and the Council Of Motor Clubs to abolish the club plate scheme within NSW for a number of reasons, one of these reasons being. :evil:

Originally the scheme was negotiated by the CMC with the idea that to restore a historic car 1895 to 1959 or at the time a vehicle older than 30 years to original conditon, was not only an important exercise to preserve automotive history but because these restorations where expensive a discount registration sheme would be benificial to ensure these kinds of restorations continued offering insurance and registration discounts after spending mega dollars througout the restoration. 8)

Currently some clubs are trying to take advantage of these rules. :oops:

This is an example not based on actual individual clubs I just plucked Ford but it could be any club so don't shoot me.

eg. A T model ford restored to original condtion as close to origianl manufactured specification is what the scheme was originally negotiated for. But some clubs have T bucket hot rods on conditional registration which is not what the scheme was originally negotiated to cover.

It would be up to an association of Hot Rod clubs to aproach the RTA and negotiate for hotrods older than 30 years to be included in this scheme which is what the CMC did for classic cars.

As far as mini related clubs are concerned the MCC with it's 40 year history and the AMVC have had many committee members involved with the schemes inception helping to make it into reality. :D

A great scheme to many people who own one two many classic cars. :D

Lets hope we never lose it.

Big thanks goes to those that have helped make it a reality

Steve Eaton
President
Austin Motor Vehicle Club of NSW

PS sorry for raving on its late and I just had a beer.

Cheers


Just the one Steve?? :D

Thats interesting....the discussions going on in the ACT Council of Car Clubs have continually refered to a proposed expansion of the scheme to include "seasonal registration", acknowledging that restorers and enthusiasts might only want to bring their pride and joy out in the summer months....

The other thing being discussed is the person with 6 cars who only wants to drive one at a time....just like you can in the USA....that would be great for collectors etc

The spirit of the scheme is what needs to be preserved and that involves a certain amount of responsibility and discipline.....

The hot rod example is a good one for stock sedan cars ....if you drive a full race Mini with lots of modifications after getting CRS for a stock looking car then you are just asking for some do gooder to dob you in to the authorities....and put the scheme in jepardy...

rightly or wrongly....CRS is a privelege that comes with responsibilities.

Having said that....I think there should even be a classification for historic Hot Rods...but how the hell would you enforce that :!:

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