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My_Mini_Rocks wrote:
How do i put pics in this forum?
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http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10405 :)

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how about this to an original cooper s....ouch....[/img]

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liitle cooper s project for us to fix!....oh boy, lots of late nights for the minisport team.

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i was involved in a t-bone with a nissan patrol which wrapped my panel van around a light post, i got out and walked away, but my friend wasn't so lucky, he ended up spending a week in intensive care with a multitude of injuries the worst being a severly bruised brain, i would put pictures up but i don't know how 2, if some one else wishes to, tell me your email and i'll send them 2 you


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IMHO, two rules when considering a car's passive safety (its ability to protect you in an actual collision);
1. Mass ALWAYS wins (you cannot change the laws of physics)

2. The newer the car, the safer it is.

5th Gear (on Foxtel) have done a number of real world crashes on their program to highlight car safety. Some of crashes they have done;

A) head-on between an early 90's Volvo 940 and BMW 5 series each travelling at 60 mph. Conclusion - neither driver would have survived despite the size and safety features of each car.

B) Smart car front on into a 10 tonne (? - it was BIG) concrete barrier at freeway speeds. Amazingly there was no penetration into the cabin despite the short front overhang of the Smart, and the little car managed to move the entire concrete barrier. Conclusion - despite the lack of cabin intrusion, the occupants would have died due the massive organ deceleration / g Forces. They also smashed a Barina (Opel Corsa) and got a worse result - the cabin was demolished.

C) Late 90's Renault Espace (3 star NCAP) offset head on collision with a new model Renault Espace (5 star NCAP) at around 30mph (?). Both had driver's airbag, but the ability of the newer car to absorb the impact and still retain an intact cabin (these are Tarago type cars) meant no injuries for the driver of the newer car, whilst the older car driver's injuries would have been life threatening.

D) Pajero t-boning an early 90's Honda Civic. The Civic driver's door that took the impact ended up touching the inside of the passenger door (the 4WD basically drove right through the cabin), and it highlighted the danger of 4WD's raise height in that their chassis is at shoulder height (and alot higher than a smaller car's chassis).

I'm under no delusion that a mini is not the kind of car I would like to be in in an accident. However I haven't bought it for its safety features (my daily car has all those for transporting the family), and for the amount of kms I plan to do in it I'm confortable with risk. On the topic of risk, there is no car that is absolutely safe. Nothing in life is risk free, and you just have to weigh up what risks you want to take as part of living life. That's why I chose to give up riding motorbikes. /Rant :)


just proves what i said - but i still ride a motorcycle - nah nah nah :P

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I got warned of the following...

Petrol Cap sheering off
doors popping open
rather hard dash
key into knee
engine in your lap
seats coming off the floor / brackets


But in saying that, my dads cooper was ripped in half by a bus, he walked away without a scratch. So go figure.

I guess it all depends on how lucky you are in an accident.

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I've never crashed a mini, but my old man crashed my first mini (a van) into a steel pole while going flat out in reverse (now do you see where I get it from) :roll:

The rear floor absorbed the impact, leaving a 5" deep neat impression.
We hammered the door back out (not much protection there), and I drove it around for the next couple of years with just a rag stuffed in the floor dent!

Quite tough little cars, but safety is relative
- I only decided on a roll bar for my Moke to make it easier to fit seat belts :wink:

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I thought the roll bar was for protection from people throwing rubbish bins at your moke? :P

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The mini is unsafe by today's standards, no argument. In its time, it was average.

Specifically, non-burstproof locks, hinged front seats, no seatbelts, fuel filler breaking in rear impact over the top of silencer. It did have passive safety, i.e. good quick handling.

If you are aware of this, drive conservatively and accept the risks, you're a realist. I don't think there's a counter argument to this, and that's why I'm reticent about taking my kids in the 850 other than trips around our suburb.

But to put current safety tests in perspective, or more accurately the difference between american and german engineers, check this out. It is a very interesting comparison, and will make you think differently about certain cars...


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Angusdog;
That crash test is amazing yet not surprising. Unfortunately (and it's the problem that as mini drivers we all face) is when the F-150 hits a small car, its mass, height of its impact point, and design end up using the crumple zone of the smaller car and effectively demolish it.

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Possibly true, in that rather rare occurance, a head-on accident. But I bet a lot of people drive around in F150s with a misplaced idea of how safe they are. Bear in mind the Bini is less likely to be in an accident as it handles better, brakes better and has basically been designed by engineers and nor marketing personnel.


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re that pic Mini Mad posted on p1 of the 850 I was passenger in..
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1. It was way back in 1965, we were run off the road by a dickhead in a Porsche..
2. There were no seatbelts in the car.
3. Nobody walked away. The driver and I both went to hospital after they cut us out. he spent 1 night in with a broken lower arm, I spent 21 WEEKS there in traction, with a shattered left leg (in 100pcs) and broken upper arm- and then another 5 months off work.

The tree missed the crank, it went straight thru the radiator and into the cabin.
Had it hit head on into the engine, possibly there would be less cabin damage but more deceleration. So, I might not be here typing this...

As said by many, a Mini is chuckable. But when you are forced off road at speed and the driver has no rally experience on dirt, the results can be deadly.

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this is a strong argument for clubman minis
padded dash
padded steering wheel
seats prevented from tilting forward
lap sash retractable seat belts
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Scary crash...walking away was a bad choice of words..I meant that both survived ;)

Don't kid youself into thinking that short trips around your local suburb are safer than anywhere else, statistics show that more accidents happen within X km from home.. or something like that :? :lol:

Me..i'm probably pushing my luck..I ride a bike and drive a mini..and do alot of k's too...but it's too fun to resist :mrgreen:

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