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Hell !!!!! that bronze welding. I have seen better jobs done with a pile of sparrow sh!!!t dropped from a 1000 feet at 100 mph. I didn't know that bronze could stick to fresh air.

I have a few good seam cover strips that I have taken off cars that I have de-seamed. They might need a tweak here and there to re-fit if you want them. When you work out what bits you need to cut and shut like the plenum panel let me know as I have a few body shells that have some bits cut out. It might be easier to just fit a new piece in.

If you change the A panel have a look at what we did on "slinkys " car. he posted some pics on a thread. It completely seals both the inner and outer panels and stops the crap from building up under the hinge support brackets.

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yeah if i were you id be taking the deam covers off and giving them a good wire wheeling. drivers one looks like it definitely harbouring rust. when putting them back on, forget about the clips (they just scratch on the way on leading to more rust) just use some sikaflex.


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A Panels have actualy been repaired...but Cheers
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I guess Im questioning should it have been seam welded where its just been tack welded above the rear seam I may aswell see where they have taken it all along the rear also

Braiseing is every where in this car due to the PO

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Really there is nothing wrong with brazing, except it has got a poor reputation.
You will find factory brazing under a Mini, it was used around the rear of the floor. It flows in between clean sheets of steel, unlike MIG.

Many new cars are now braze welded (with bronze MIG) from zinc etc coated sheet, rather than spotwelded.

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But this interests me. I dont think they came this way inwhich I expect anything from the Previouse Owner
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can some one tell me if this is normal..if not should it be seam welded, same the otherside

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The biggest problem with brazing is people do not clean the flux off properly, a true craftsman makes a brazing look like silk. Not many of the old boys left


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But this interests me. I dont think they came this way inwhich I expect anything from the Previouse Owner
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can some one tell me if this is normal..if not should it be seam welded, same the otherside


No Jim that is not normal. bad idea to spot weld then leave a big gap. Did it have 1/2" of bog on there?

yes weld it up to seal and then smooth it out.

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thanks Mike thats what I was after :wink:
surprising no to much bog

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As Doc said there is nothing wrong with brazing body panels. That's how I learned to do panel repairs 40 years ago. I had a vapour flux unit then and pre-heated the area so that it did not expand too much and when it cooled the panel shrunk and could be knocked into shape.
The old bloke who taught me even did lead filling instead of bog.

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These days many modern panel shops have a special ($$$$$) MIG optimised for MIG brazing with bronze wire. No flux, it uses shielding gas. Results are clean.

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