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I suppose I should worry that after 17 years my cam must be getting ready to chuck it in.

A few years ago I was the logistics manager for the Army's heavy vehicle fleet. One of the resources available was DSTOs material research lab. In the view of their lubrication expert, synthetics provide inherently more protection as they don't rely in any great degree on additive packages.

A couple of times I've been tempted to save money and used normal oil. The change in the level of debris on the magnetic plug has always driven me straight back to a synthetic. I used to use 5W60 Shell Helix but that seems to have disappeared. Edge 10W60 seems to be as close as you can get these days.

You pays your money and takes your chances.....

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im guessing this is some sort of pay out to what GR was just clearing up for everyone?

dont get me wrong synthetic oils are great for the modern aged vehicle.. but i cant help to find that doesnt matter who you speak to, they all say the same sorta thing whether is be a car lover or mechanic... dont run synthetic oils in your classic car!...

main reason for what GR was just saying about the synthetics not sticking and possibly causing premature wear.. unfortunately every engine is different therefore will react differently..

i think the bottom line to this thread is... use the oil you feel more comfortable with. if you believe the experience of the wise is right then follow the advice given.. BUT if you feel that modern technology in oil will improve the life of your mini/car.. then use it..

but if your engine fails on any count due to oil cause problem... DONT come here to sook..

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Motul 4100 power Synthetic blend here

costs so much I never have oil leaks, I cant afford them :lol:

It's pretty straight forward to have your used oil tested these days, maybe a few people could do this and post the results, will give a fair indication of how well things are fairing

FWIW most people probably dont need a real high spec oil but I have seen to much utter rubbish passed off as being OK so the extra $30 every few months is hardly anything to worry about to know you are getting a consistent product, K mart could change to a different blend every time they order another batch so who knows whats in it now


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Never forget the MOST important thing, check the level regularily and do regular oil and filter changes.

Doesn't matter what oil you use, if it all leaks out your engine will die :cry:

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nice point tombo... only just realised i should of added that aswell... :lol:.


the price doesnt matter because a oil one day will cost $35 then a week later will be on special for $20 at supercheap or something... does that mean they change the blend on that particular batch??

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Tombo wrote:
Never forget the MOST important thing, check the level regularily and do regular oil and filter changes.

Doesn't matter what oil you use, if it all leaks out your engine will die :cry:

And if you zoom around roundabouts with the oil on min mark, the oil will get thrown away from the pickup, your big end bearings will die, and the crankpins will wear oval. I've stripped 2 motors recently with this problem... both 1275s, one was low mileage too.:shock:

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nice point tombo... only just realised i should of added that aswell... :lol:.


the price doesnt matter because a oil one day will cost $35 then a week later will be on special for $20 at supercheap or something... does that mean they change the blend on that particular batch??


No. That is called retail.

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*cough* erm which oil is most resistant to burning? I swear I burn so much oil these days I don't have to worry about changing the oil because it's all new. :x


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*cough* erm which oil is most resistant to burning? I swear I burn so much oil these days I don't have to worry about changing the oil because it's all new. :x


Ahhh,,, sounds like you`re after a bottle of "Fix-Your-Car"

that`s a joke :-)

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Went ahead and bought some KMX. Cheap at $14 for 4 Lts. Seems that this batch is coming from Valvoline (noticed it on the label of the packing boxes under the display).

Anyone noticed any difference in KMX recently? The Doc seemed to think it was re-badged Shell at one stage.


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Ahhh Gulf Western 20W50 at 15 bux a bottle, cheapest on the shelf, driven me all the way around the country. Whats more important than oil, is your oil filter, make sure you change it every 5-8000km's. A clogged filter will do more damage than differing oils, affects your oil pressure and once clogged will just recircle the metal around your motor.

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Gulf Western. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ausmini rule 4 wrote:
4. Objectionable comments about a business or company, whether it be true or not, are not allowed.


In this case it may be true so I won't say anything objectionable. :mrgreen:


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wild_willy wrote:
Went ahead and bought some KMX. Cheap at $14 for 4 Lts. Seems that this batch is coming from Valvoline (noticed it on the label of the packing boxes under the display).

Anyone noticed any difference in KMX recently? The Doc seemed to think it was re-badged Shell at one stage.

I always give it `the smell test', and I've not noticed any difference in bottles bought recently.
IMO it still smells like the old Shell Super 20W/50 of yesteryear... :lol:
No my schnoz ain't broken, yet.

BTW I think you will find that Valvoline out here is effectively a retail arm of Mobil Oil Aust- ie they make the oil.

They may say it is Ashland US but I have friends in the oilz and their additives biz. :wink:

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There are companies that refine oil.
There are companies the blend oil.

Where does your brand come from?

I know one oil company in Western Sydney that got into a lot of trouble for blending new oil with re-cycled oil. They Got into so mUch troubLe that they were Forced to change their name.

Do I have to spell it out for you?


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meh, fill car with oil

treat car like crap, top up with oil, im blending my own oil :D :D :D :D

empty car of oil, refill with oil, treat car like crap

rinse repeat

buy different oil, top up oil, oh look a new blend :D :D :D :D :D

go back to treating car like crap. should i do the tanami this weekend, :shock: :shock: :D :D :D :D

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Morris 1100 wrote:
There are companies that refine oil.
There are companies the blend oil.

Where does your brand come from?

I know one oil company in Western Sydney that got into a lot of trouble for blending new oil with re-cycled oil. They Got into so mUch troubLe that they were Forced to change their name.

Do I have to spell it out for you?


Who did they get in trouble with? Is it documented on ACCC or Fair trading sites?

just curious.

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