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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:04 am 
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Floor pressings are wrong for Cooper S Look for Daggie non factory welds as it looks like it could be made from different cars maybe the rear end of a Cooper S ?? Who knows. Sure is interesting. Front floor is from a rod change car.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:47 am 
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Morris 1100 wrote:
Not really true with the Minis prior to mid 69. On those cars the firewall didn't get the number till after the car was made. On these cars the body number on the radiator shroud is painted and the car number on the firewall is stamped trough the paint.


Yes, you are right on that. It was that replacement - rod shift - floor that threw me on that one.

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On the radiator shroud the numbers are M2 about 3/8 high then below that is P4 or a PA and then 82 both about 1/2 high..


I've just had another look at the start of this thread, with my fresh brain in this morning.

If the rad cowl has PA and no number then it is very likely that this body was a replacement from Spare Parts.

It may be that the car was crashed and re-shelled. Probably not an insurance job - they would probably just write it off if it was that badly damaged, but whole body shells were available from Spare Parts. It may have been written off and the wreck bought and re-shelled by someone else.

Who knows?

But my guess is it's a re-shelled car.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:23 pm 
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hiya Flapper,

Was this an eBay buy a while back - white with red roof shell?

if so, I was the seller.

I was under the impression it was originally a mini-matic that had cooper S parts put on as a replica.

They were long gong when I bought it.

Explains the colour scheme too.

I didn't notice any cooper writing though, but then again I didn't look that hard.

The guy I bought it from told me he was into racing minis, and this was his spare shell.

Sorry I don't much more - it was one of my many gonna projects from the past I did nothing to.

If it ain't that car, dispregard all the above. :roll:

Good luck with it Flapper, cheers! jon


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:20 pm 
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Yes Jon. It is the mini that we purchased from yourself.

A bit more info for all!!.. Yes we have put the yellow floor in for the rod change, as Jon didn't give us any floor. :lol: After then 100th time I have decided it is PA on the shroud. (Still waiting on someone to tell us what PA refers to).
Another strange thing on this body is that it had NO body deadening under neath at all.

Watto's reshelling thoughts may be the answers, if this happened early in it's life!!.

Thanks for those who have scratched your heads on this one.


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flapper wrote:
. (Still waiting on someone to tell us what PA refers to).
Another strange thing on this body is that it had NO body deadening under neath at all.


I'd go with what Watto said above - factory spare part bodyshell :)


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flapper wrote:
After then 100th time I have decided it is PA on the shroud. (Still waiting on someone to tell us what PA refers to)..


watto wrote:
If the rad cowl has PA and no number then it is very likely that this body was a replacement from Spare Parts.

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Yep, PA is Parts and Accessories. It probably would have been a replacement shell or possibly one used to build a race car.

PA shells usually have a fairly low body number and no car number.


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John Smidt said he often rebirthed Cooper Ss as Mini Ks, because he could insure and sell a Mini K a lot easier than a Cooper S, and then could sell the Cooper S engine, brakes, etc, for more, and subsequently make more money out of the car. No idea how many of those are around.

It might be possible that something similar was done with your car.

Just something to consider.

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Just For The Record, I do not think that I ever used the term rebirthed Cooper Ss However, I did remove Cooper S motors disc Brakes R/hand tanks Etc From ex police cars and sell them with the original body numbers, and a Mini K Motor, Because the engine was 1100 CC the car could be insured @ a reasonable Cost.
Anyone who purchased one of these vechicles fom me was made aware of what they were buying, and every car was registered ( over the Pits )
To me the term "rebirthed" implies shonky or ilegal actions, I did not get involved in any ilegal or shonky dealings
As A matter of fact I was one of two people who represented MTA on the anti theft advisory committe. In NSW for a number of years.
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I used to have a "Cooper-Matic" :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cooper s
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flapper wrote:
On the radiator shroud the numbers are M2 about 3/8 high then below that is P4 or a PA and then 82 both about 1/2 high.. There is no number stamped on the fire wall. We also found whilst looking for the number "cooper" written.


This is a replacement shell, sold through the factory as a spare part.

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There is a member on here who owned a reshelled (many years ago) Mini K, and the RTA used the PA number as the ID for registration.. :lol:

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John Smidt wrote:
Just For The Record, I do not think that I ever used the term rebirthed Cooper Ss However, I did remove Cooper S motors disc Brakes R/hand tanks Etc From ex police cars and sell them with the original body numbers, and a Mini K Motor, Because the engine was 1100 CC the car could be insured @ a reasonable Cost.
Anyone who purchased one of these vechicles fom me was made aware of what they were buying, and every car was registered ( over the Pits )


A car like that turned up in Wagga maybe 20 years ago. The body was definitely S but the instruments, badges and mechanicals were all Mini K. I don't recall if it had a RH tank nor if there were any telltale holes suggesting it was a Police car in the past. Back then I didn't care. :(

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