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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:55 pm 
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I'm talking changing lanes here, under power in a straight line, dry road...


yep as i said badly setup. torque steer can be dialed out if you know what you are doing. :wink:

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I wasn't driving, just packing death in the suicide seat.


nothing quite like a out of control 4efte mini. the first one i drove wanted to change ends with a stab of the go pedal.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:33 pm 
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I'm not after some undrivable lumpy thing that needs to be revved to hell to keep it going. Basically I want easy driving, good torque and reasonable power.

Look forward to opinions...


the way i see it is that this guy "DOES`NT" want a race mini

hence why i said go big, but keep it mild

soooooo,,,,, i don`t how many of you have driven "BIG" mini engines but that`s the way to get exactly what the man asked

keep the cam mild & the comp ratio down to suit pump fuel with no detonation, give it some good head (cause BIG motors have BIG lungs & Bob`s your Aunty

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no Jousting from me,,, just simple facts



I have drivin a similar engine to what matt is talking about and they
are a good driving motor

(1400 ish cc and every thing else like head ,cam is not much over standard)

It's fun to drive ,plenty of torque and best of all it starts every time .


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wallygog wrote:
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I'm talking changing lanes here, under power in a straight line, dry road...


yep as i said badly setup. torque steer can be dialed out if you know what you are doing. :wink:

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I wasn't driving, just packing death in the suicide seat.


nothing quite like a out of control 4efte mini. the first one i drove wanted to change ends with a stab of the go pedal.


hee hee,,, love you Wallygog,,, i rest my case :-)

& you too Roundy,,, "Imagine" what a "Decent" head & cam combo would be like in your thing.... did you ever go for a spin in my 1500???

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I'm not after some undrivable lumpy thing that needs to be revved to hell to keep it going. Basically I want easy driving, good torque and reasonable power.


Could always go supercharged or turbocharged - you didn't say it had to be reliable :lol:


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either way i think minis are all about handling and for that, even an 850 will put a smile on your face.


my 850 puts a smile on my face :D


Nothing beats an 850. When all the hotted up 1275s are all on the side of the road, ill wave to you as I drive past in my 850!
Reminds me of an old fable about a Tortoise and a Hare...

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hey, don`t get me wrong here---> i love 850 engines, i really do.

























They`re great to rob all the bolts & nuts off to help assemble a decent engine :-)

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well that one wont get very far, it hasnt got a fan belt

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Drexxle wrote:
well that one wont get very far, it hasnt got a fan belt


noo the incredible torque turns the engine/radiator around the fan!

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superSeven wrote:
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well that one wont get very far, it hasnt got a fan belt


noo the incredible torque turns the engine/radiator around the fan!


i should have quoted 850man.

"Nothing beats an 850. When all the hotted up 1275s are all on the side of the road, ill wave to you as I drive past in my 850!
Reminds me of an old fable about a Tortoise and a Hare... "

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1071 wrote:
"... even an 850 will put a smile on your face"

And how far have you driven an 850. After 2000 km (in a couple of days) the thrill wears off :)

As the Yanks say.. there aint no substitute for cubic inches....

Anything you can do with a small motor you can do with the big one - to better effect.

Cheers, Ian


maybe for you but I enjoyed my 850, it was a giggle to drive fast through the hills, passing normal cars.

if you just want some laughs then any a-series will do the trick, the engine is just there to get you to the next corner :)


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simon k wrote:
and remember that anyone who tries to tell you a worked 1100 is a good option is kidding themselves


Ahem, say what?
Anyone laying down the challenge? Bring me your 1400cc strokers and big bores :-)


Seriously though if Force Fed isnt an option, 1330cc RE13, WELL ported head, nice intake and an HS6 or HIF and exhaust to match... ALL PROPERLY TUNED will be plenty!
Get a big motor, 'worked' and poorly tuned and it will drive crap... period.

YES, small bores can be faster than big bores (with the same amount of work done) but depends on the type of driving, ie, the power ban on the worked small bore, rev range, max rev, max torque, etc. The main point being the power ban or peak torque will be much higher and this is NOT what the 'customer' wants in this case.

Something like Chongs motor, that would be HEAPS, its got low down torque and plenty of it. Could you make more power? Hell yeah, would it be as drivable, no... and thats not what the OP wants.

MY personal fav would be a 1275cc-1380cc replacing the EXACT setup I have now... same compression, same top end, same everything.

2 reasons I personally prefer the smallbore in a WORKED motor...

1. If I keep increasing power, and I break something, there are HEAPS more 998/1100 parts out there
2. The 998/1100 parts I break (and have several times) are cheaper

Breaking a block on a 1275 or a crank hurts my pocket then my face (after the wife slaps the crap out of me for buying stuff)


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Mike - have you considered a head conversion (eg kit from MiniMan)? Or do you want to keep it all "Mini"?

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YES, small bores can be faster than big bores (with the same amount of work done)

physics would dissagree with you.


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YES, small bores can be faster than big bores (with the same amount of work done)

physics would dissagree with you.

There's no replacement for cubic inches, except cubic money. :wink:

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drmini in aust wrote:
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YES, small bores can be faster than big bores (with the same amount of work done)

physics would dissagree with you.

There's no replacement for cubic inches, except cubic money. :wink:


Doc,,, that old saying is actually meant to read---> "there`s no replacement , for displacement"

But then,,, there is always "force Feeding",,,, But!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you force-feed a small bore A-series,,, & then try to compare a similarly set-up "force-fed" big bore A-series,,, well,,, the small bore would have to breath way better & rev way harder,,, & somehow i don`t see that happening to any convincing effect

so,,, again (in my opinion) ---> there`s no replacement for displacement

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