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marcsvenson wrote:
is it possible for the bags to go POP i just got a delux shell with hydro and a little worried of this happening and thinking of changing to dry also if used on the track is dry way better the wet for handling

I'd be more worried about the steel piping going bang from rust.. but that can be fixed. So can the hoses.

re the handling I don't think so, kazjim's Deluxe is converted to dry and on the same Yoko tyres and Contessa wheels he can't get around me at Wakefield Pk.. :lol:

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Mick wrote:
These bumpstops might help to releave the pressure on the hydrolastic system a little.

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?pid=33862



There's also a set available for the rear.They've been available for many many years, and will allow you I believe to still get home if you bust a bag although they're really meant to simply stiffen the girl up.

I've got an ancient set on mine at the moment.Image

I run these on the rear and love them, but found with `em on the front too it sat way too high and I got positive camber. It handled like a Moke.... :evil:

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I also had these on the front of Morris and theyt only lasted a Year :?

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My front ones are so hammered (You know....that sagging helper spring thingy we were talking about) that they aren't very big at all.

All in one piece, just a bit over squished.

No squish left really.

A shadow of it's former squishy self.

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pops only has a problem on 1 side you dont have to go to rubber cones i love my hydro that much that my dad & i built our own pump to put in glycol as you dont use soluble oil any more because it created more problems thats why sometimes you get rusted lines . you may need to replace a bag or a line.i flushed all my lines with the car in the air & put in new glycol it takes a while to get your ride height 100 % but just keep at it .

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Would you mind posting details of your pump Horris?

I'd like to see how people have gone about that stuff.
I saw one made with a master cylinder once. Couldn't evacuate the lines, but was great for top-ups.

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I made one very recently that evaculates as well as pumps, and it's excellent

I got an old pneumatic ram given to me as the basis, using a t-piece screwed into one of the inlets, and 2 check valves, one only allowing fluid in, and the other only allowing it out. I bought a schraeder accumulator valve attachment from Blackwoods, which I connect to either side depending on whether I want to pump or evacuate, and the other side goes into a plastic cordial bottle. The most expensive and important bit was getting a valve attachment that could handle the pressure, I bought one like this from Blackwoods, can get you the part number if you like, it was about $60, so not cheap, you do up the nut onto the valve, then screw in the T on the end to push in the valve, it works really well

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I added gizmos like a pressure guage to it after I got it all working - that's how I pumped up my Cooper S after having the front subframe out

the pump is on the bench in this pic.... amongst all the other crap

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I've never found the need to evacuate them- nor did most of the lazy BMC mechanics back in the 60s..

Any air in a hydraulic system always accumulates at ther top of the system, in this case the front hose where it loops up and over onto the pipe.
Pump them up high, then blow them almost right down by pushing the valve stem in, HARD. The pressure from the front bag blows all the air out the rear.
Then just pump up to a bit above normal, repeat other side. Finally let then down to desired hight. Shake car side to side to settle it.

BTW, the fluid never did contain `soluble oil'-
hydrolastic fluid is water and alcohol, and I suspect some glycol? Someone posted the recipe here a while back.
Yes you can use either neat glycol, or 50/50 glycol & water- both are popular in US.
I just buy hydrolastic fluid off Karcraft for mine. It's been going 35 years now (touch wood!) :lol:

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