Again, if used in accordance with the manufacturers specifications and australian standards.

Ultimately Its up to the magistrate to make the decision in the end. Both parties (police and defendant) bring all there evidence to the table and the magistrate will make a judgment.

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Mini, its in my blood........

He resides in NSW, so legislation and procedures are different. NTA's are for Qld.

In NSW Police may immediately suspend and confiscate your licence for the following offences:

A serious driving offence causing death or grievous bodily harm.
Speeding in excess of 45 km/h over the speed limit.
Middle or high range prescribed concentration of alcohol or committing other serious alcohol-related offences.
A street racing offence.
An aggravated burnout offence.*
Speeding in excess of 30km/h over the speed limit whilst the holder of a learner or provisional licence.
Driving unaccompanied by a supervising driver whilst the holder of a learner licence.

* The definition of an aggravated burnout includes a hoon driver's mates who willingly participate in, urge others to participate in, photograph or film to promote or organise hoon activity.

Police can suspend and confiscate a licence either on the spot or within 48 hours of the offence being committed.Where a person is charged by Police with one of the offences, the suspension will remain until the offence is heard by a court. If you are convicted and disqualified by the court, the court may take into account the period you have served under suspension when imposing the disqualification period.

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Mini, its in my blood........

Amusing that everyone is giving their own advice on the assumption that the original poster gives a crap. He only posted once and hasn't interjected or provided additional details for three pages. Ease up turbo(s)

Sorry I meant to say the policeman said he was 30kms over. Which comes with a $400 and something fine (I will have to ask my brother again when I see him)



he got a ticket. If in fact he was 74kms over I don't think any policeman in their right mind would allow them to continue....



No but I have (I'm his brother). But if it makes you feel any better I will get him to repost on whats happening when I see him next

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did u work out what the RPM would be to hit that speed with your diff ratio and tyre size. would be fun to see that ur 1100 can rev to 10,000 rpm lol

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A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "Damn...that was fun!"

SO how fast WAS he going....nobody seems to have asked?! Is he defending the figure of 130?

6500 RPM, with a 3.44 diff and 165/70R10 tyres is 172.5 km/h.

But.

As Doc said, no 1098 in his state of tune is ever going to pull 6500 RPM in top gear with a 3.44 diff, downhill or otherwise. The wind resistance is just too great.

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Simon

The adventures of an owner builder in the Tallarook Ranges

It doesn't really matter what speed he was going.

He most definitely wasn't going 174 and therefore because this is wrong the police have no idea what speed he was going and therefore cannot fine him.

I suppose it is now up to him to prove he wasn't going 174...

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Guess I got a little confused, sorry. There's mention of 174, but then later it said the ticket was for 130....so wasn't sure how the 174 came into it. The cop only has to prove 130 I would have thought, not any other figure that may have been mentioned roadside. Sounds like they can't prove either speed though, so I guess he's defending it.

If he'd had any brains he would have insisted that the cop not let him off so lightly and fine / book him at the alleged speed (of 174). Then it would be considerably easier in court. At 130, he's got a battle that he'll have extreme difficulty in beating.

There was a post about a run in once before from the same family if memory serves, seem the local constabulary have it in for them.

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I think the last time we were dealt unfairly it was me, he was a local copper, who unfortunatley is still around, but has left me alone since.

This lad was from Orange apparently, so wouldn't have known us.

I got fined the other day for 114 in a 90 zone (different policeman who is the local highway patrol officer) and he fined me for up to 20kms over (I deserved this one so im not complaining about this and first time I ever been caught speeding) but it had on my ticket 114/90. ie the speed I was going. I havnt seen my brothers ticket so cant comment on what it says....

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It kind of does matter what speed he was going.

If he was speeding, got booked doing 130km+. Pay the price. Doesn't matter if its 130 or 174 or 210 or any number. He broke the law.

Has he denied doing 130? I'm sure his car is capable of it.

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Ryan Filippi
Minis In The Gong
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www.minisinthegong.com.au

No I disagree. The police officer said he was going 174, but thought he would be "nice" about it and charge him for up to 30kms over. So the paper will alledge he was going 174.

If it can be proven he wasn't going 174, the police will not be able to charge him because they will be unable to prove the exact speed he was going. And thus cannot fine him.

I believe this is the way it works.

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Seems to be a lack of facts still. Brenton, perhaps you could get your brother to post some facts or you could view the ticket so that any statements can be fact based rather then supposition.
Until the facts are known this discussion will continue going in circles with no constructive or useful suggestions.

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1964 998cc Cooper
1971 Mini K x 2
1972 Clubman GT

Fact is it looks like he was exceeding the speed limit - haggling over by how much doesn't make it right or wrong - the law was broken - pay the price.

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David L


My greatest fear in life is that when I die my wife will sell my Mini and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!