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I would like to be a part of the Mini1000/1100
Yes, Im in. 72%  72%  [ 18 ]
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Hi all I have just registered to find out more details on this great idea. when will the series get underway & will it run with the MRA or on its own?. Also are these speed days or proper racing with qualifing. Plus what sort of safety equipment will the car & driver need.
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I agree with a few different people on here there has to be some policing but little, but even if joe big bucks comes along and spends a fortune and kills us all we will still be the ones having fun jossleing in the back with each other cause our cars are so simillar in spec etc.

it is good to have some rules and policing but anything over the top makes it not as fun cause you cant try and test different heads and cams etc etc.

I am all for it.

could you use any mini? because Rover's are easy to get from brickworx at the moment and its better to kill a rover than a 850,cooper,deluxe,S or K's clubbies on the other hand lol :lol: :wink:

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Yea...could be a market for some cheap unregisterable rover shells :)

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I agree with a few different people on here there has to be some policing but little, but even if joe big bucks comes along and spends a fortune and kills us all we will still be the ones having fun jossleing in the back with each other cause our cars are so simillar in spec etc.

it is good to have some rules and policing but anything over the top makes it not as fun cause you cant try and test different heads and cams etc etc.

I am all for it.

could you use any mini? because Rover's are easy to get from brickworx at the moment and its better to kill a rover than a 850,cooper,deluxe,S or K's clubbies on the other hand lol :lol: :wink:

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Grant, if its a Mini, it will be allowed is my understanding... kill whichever shell you want :) just dont hit me :)

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thickasabrick wrote:
Hi all I have just registered to find out more details on this great idea. when will the series get underway & will it run with the MRA or on its own?. Also are these speed days or proper racing with qualifing. Plus what sort of safety equipment will the car & driver need.


Hi,

Welcome to Ausmini and thanks for the interest.
I need to find out details about the series (like how exactly we will run it) but yes, I think your understanding is right.

Also, as far as safety. You need to comply with rules but we are looking at them also.
You will need Helmet, Suit minimum and you will need a roll cage (finding out wether you must have full or half cage right now)

Its all about getting the Mini's back in an affordable race ;)

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I had a lot to do with one of the best HQ racers of a few years back (Peter Dane). I learnt a lot about race car setup from him.

He won just about every HQ championship at one stage or another and it is about chassis development and tyres. His car was very very stock but very well developed. It was also big budget compared to a lot of others. He practiced on one set of new tyres and raced on another. He never ever went out on the track without fresh brake fluid in the calipers and wheel cylinders. The shockies and springs were tested for sepcification and either reset or revalved if they varied, after each race.

It was more attention to detail than cheating but the detail cost money and showed results. The final outcome of this series will be the same but its a ball anyway. Regardless of all above a true genuine talent will shine once race craft is learnt.



And here is an example of where some drivers/teams tried to get unfair advantages.

One of the rules stated that the rear axle must be solid - no universal joints or IRS setups allowed. This was so that all cars would have a relalively neutral rear end geometry.

Some drivers found that they could run a fat seam weld along the top of the axle which would bend the wheel ends upwards when the weld cooled, resulting in a couple degrees of negative camber. The downside was that they had to replace rear wheel bearings after every meet. The upside was better lap times.

It was a simple case of reading between the lines and bending the rules a bit.... without breaking them.

If you ask me, THAT is cheating....... even if it isnt breaking the rules.


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Yea...could be a market for some cheap unregisterable rover shells :D


That is exactly how Steve sold a few shells just 12 months ago - for the S.A. series that never started. The shells went for about $1500 to $2000 without subframes, engines, interiors, etc etc, just a bare shell. All you do is buy a wrecked clubby or whatever and transfer everything across.

The Rover shells are supposed to be slightly lighter than 850 shells too.

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Some drivers found that they could run a fat seam weld along the top of the axle which would bend the wheel ends upwards when the weld cooled, resulting in a couple degrees of negative camber. The downside was that they had to replace rear wheel bearings after every meet. The upside was better lap times.


Why didn't they just fit floating hubs, this would be much cheaper than replacing bearings every meeting. I mean if it was against the rules to have a cambered diff then all you would need in scrutineering is a right angle square to check, would take less time than sticking the ok sticker on, so it musn't have been against the rules?

If you think someone is cheating you can protest, the fact you know of this mod means it was an accepted practise amongst competitiors and it should have either been allowed or canned.

I think everyone should stop the fear of cheats ruining the series and try to encourage everyone to join in. There are plenty of other categories that encourage cheating so let them go there.

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so is there no 'under 1000cc' racing class' in australia at the moment?sorry excuse my ignorance
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$1500 to $2000 bare shell, wow i would rather find a good deluxe, k or 850 shell for less than half that rolling too

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But then you dont' have to worry about rust and rattles..

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rattles in a race car, the onlt sound you will hear is the singing of a small bore at 6500rpm.

as for rust, cut it out eld it up and paint it, does not have to look as good as a road car

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rattles in a race car, the onlt sound you will hear is the singing of a small bore at 6500rpm.

as for rust, cut it out eld it up and paint it, does not have to look as good as a road car

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less cutting welding and painting.. :)

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Rust is still there in the 90's ones

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Rust is still there in the 90's ones


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less cutting welding and painting.. :)


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less money too ;)

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