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The standard heatshield wouldn't fit on that aftermarket exhaust, but if it was my car I'd be more worried about the lack of air filters (sorry, off topic).


Air filters are not required to drive the car on/off the trailer :wink:

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It makes a very big difference to the temp under the bonnet. I never did any temp readings on the HQ but it was a huge noticeable drop in temp.
You could hold on to the extractors after a race. :shock:
With the HQ the starter and alternator are buried under the extractors and I was forever changing starters, alternators and wiring due to excessive heat. After wrapping I didn't have any problems.
There was an improvement in lap times after fitting the wrap. It was only small but it was an improvement. I doubt that the gain was from gasflow, it was more likely from being able to run more advance without pinging.


Well Morris, I totally understand that you are talking about benefits on the HQ's...

But if the wraping worked that well that you could grab the extractors after a race, then it will do the job that I (for one) want it to,, and thats stop the fuel in the float bowls coming to a boil when your in one of those situations where the car ends up idling to long at a stand still.

Thanks :)

Isn't that what a heat shield is for? I hope you are using one, with SUs... :wink:
I've never had this problem on the wife's car (twin HS4s and S/S heat shields).


Yeah your right, thats what the heat shields are for,, but I was at the drags with it for the first time and I didn't realise how the cues worked. They have four cues and they release 2 at a time. I pulled up at the END of a cue that wasn't due for release for about another 30min, and not knowing how long it would take to be released/having 40 other things on my mind... I ended up leaving the car idle for about 35min total with no air moving around them.

The heat shields work well, but once they have become saturated with heat they may as well not be there. That engine normally runs at a pretty steady 75-80 degrees C, but just from idleing without air... well... the fuel bowls were almost glowing red!!

Needless to say it ended up only running on about 2 and a half cylinders :roll: My own stupid fault for letting it idle so long


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My Fiat 124 Sport used to suffer from that at the drags and hillclimbs, so I used to run with the rear of the bonnet packed up to let the heat out. :lol:

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My Fiat 124 Sport used to suffer from that at the drags and hillclimbs, so I used to run with the rear of the bonnet packed up to let the heat out. :lol:


:lol: good idea, I was half tempted to take the bonnet off all together to try and get it to cool off.


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just a thought as an alternative heat shield - make one out of fibreglass with an aluminium foil reflector bonded to it on the exhaust side. Has all the good properties of the standard heat sheild for reflecting the heat away from the carbs, but won't suffer the problem of conducting heat through to the carb side. It won't help with stagnant air heating everything up, but it may give you a few minutes more on the start line/queue.

Who will be the first to test this or the wrap scientifically??

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Who will be the first to test this or the wrap scientifically??

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Hi Michael,

Define scientifically and I'll concider playing Lab Rat :lol:

I like your idea.

I am seriously looking at options though, not for the sake of chasing Hp more just for keeping the engine bays temps down,, so that I'm not loosing the power I've got :lol:


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Not too sure about longevity or performance advantage, but as far as engine bay temps, I can say that It was very difficult to work near the exhaust manifold on my Starlet powered mini without exhaust wrap. Way too hot!
Now it is wrapped I still can't touch the manifold after a hard drive but I can put my hands near it to do work, adjust boost (which is right next to manifold) and the inlet pipe (which is quite close to the manifold and the main reason I used the wrap) does not get very hot. I haven't used a temp gun on it yet, but I'm quite happy it is doing what I want it to.

[the exhaust manifold is stainless, so not overly concerned with corrosion at this stage, but will keep an eye on it. :wink: ]

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Who will be the first to test this or the wrap scientifically??

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Hi Michael,

Define scientifically and I'll concider playing Lab Rat :lol:

I like your idea.

I am seriously looking at options though, not for the sake of chasing Hp more just for keeping the engine bays temps down,, so that I'm not loosing the power I've got :lol:


All you need is a data logger with a couple of K-thermocouples (or you could use those temp sensitive stckers). Do a before test (control), measure temp at the float bowl (since we all seem to think this is the issue) and ambient at the same time over a 30 minute period. Maybe driving and idling periods separately? Then wrap the exhaust and measure the same for the same periods.

Alternative is to measure either side of the heat shield.

Logging the data of the rise in temperature of the float bowl over the idling period of 35 minutes would be instructive, as would seeing the measured difference between zero airflow idling and a moving air stream. If you take it to the track to do some really heavy duty running, then you will get another interesting bit of data.

Once you have all the data, plot it on curves for comparison. Voila!

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