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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:24 pm 
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I don't think that it's pov pack. I reckon it's a base model Clubman/Leyland Mini.

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I am going to stick with the 1275 motor that is in it. It currently has pot joints and a rod change setup. My friend, who is helping me work on it, is pretty sure it used to be remote. In terms of getting it back to stock, I would just like to get the dash back to more stockish. Maybe a Clubman GT center console setup like what was pictured in this thread, since it already has a center ignition. I would also like to get a original heater setup in it and door cards / rear cards that it would of come with originally. The headliner and sun visors have both been painted, but I am guessing I can get the fabric / sun visors from any mk3 Mini? Eventually I would like to paint it back to its original color, after I get the rust repaired. I would also like to get a original choke setup as mine is horrid, I would probably like to get that one asap if anyone knows exactly what I need. My choke barely works with the way it is setup now and its too short.

I am sure there is lots more, but we can figure it out as I try to piece this Mini back together.

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TK wrote:
I don't think that it's pov pack. I reckon it's a base model Clubman/Leyland Mini.

From 1973 the base/poverty model was the Leyland Mini. It was the bottom of the pile. It took over from the old Mini 1100 from 71/72.

There was two trim levels in the Leyland Mini, I missed a line when I decoded it.
So here it is again....

021 = YDO21 = Leyland Mini. This is the cheaper poverty model.
D = Compliance status code = Manual.
2S = 2 door saloon
M = Manual transmission
2 = Trim level 2 = Better than trim level 1. (I don't know what the difference was, It might have been a radio or it might have been carpet instead of rubber floor mats.)
10 = 1100 motor (1098cc)
12*** = car number = approx the 12000th of that type built since that model started in early 73. (subtract 500 off the cars number to get the actual number.)
11-74/45 = November 1974, 45th week of the year.

The 1100 motor lasted till mid 75. The Zetland factory closed at the end of 74 and they built up a stockpile of 1100 motors to last till the imported 998 motors arrived.

I am not sure of the dates of...
The introduction of the rod change gearbox. Some time in 73 I think.
The introduction of pot joints (it didn't happen at the same time like most people think)
The deletion of Hydro suspension in the Mini S.


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And did the clubman poverty packs not have a pudding stirrer ?????


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As far as I am aware the puddin stirrer gear stick finished at the end of the "Mini 1100" at the start of 73.
I think all the Leyland Minis had the remote shift and then the rod change.


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So I had a 'Mini Clubman'. 1972 model. It was a remote, hydro, 1100, no under riders, no chrome outer trim on front doors, vinyl floor, two instrument dash, key start on column . It wasn't the pov pack.

I believe 'Leyland Mini' were all rod change.

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I have a '73 Leyland Mini Van with a pudding stirrer.

Were the vans different?


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My 1974 Leyland Mini Van was an 1100. It had the two instrument binnacle and remote gear change.

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All vans had the pudding stirrer as far as i know.

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Bubbacluby wrote:
All vans had the pudding stirrer as far as I know.

Nope, the later vans 75? on all had rodchange. I have a `77 here.

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By January 1973 ADRs meant the "poverty pack" Mini 1100 was so similar to the Clubman model that they were virtually one model. By this time all Minis had head restraints, steering lock ignition switches, km/h speedos, self-park windscreen wipers and electric windscreen washers. Heaters and windscreen demisters had already been mandatory from January 1971, as had rear seatbelts. The central speedo of the Mini 1100 and Mini Van no longer met ADRs from January 1973.

The Clubman GT was discontinued in January 1973 (see Issue 25), as was the Mini 1100, leaving only a single model available, the Mini Clubman. Leyland Australia felt there was still a market for an up-market version, and wanted the Mini to have at least two models in the range.

The result in March 1973 was the Super Mini (seriously, that's what it was called within the factory and in some advertising), which was designated with a big red S on the grille and the bootlid. The Mini Clubman S (see Issue 12) included carpet, a three-dial dash, radio, wheel arch flares, Rostyle wheels, bumper under-riders and a black-out grille.

Within a month of the release of the Mini Clubman S, hydrolastic suspension was discontinued and the Clubman name was dropped, making the two models available the Leyland Mini and Leyland Mini S. Both still had the remote gearchange, while the Mini Van still included the pudding-stirer gearstick.

The rod-change gearbox had been introduced in the UK in December 1972, and was introduced to Australian Minis around the middle of 1973 - probably May or June. From this point on, all Minis, including the Van, had the rod-change gearbox.

It was also around this time that the base model Leyland Mini received carpet as standard fitting and the Van received carpet for the front foot well.

So, the base model Leyland Mini was no longer a "poverty pack" but was simply the standard model in the range and included two-dial dash, carpets, heater/demister, steering lock ignition, rear seatbelts, etc etc. The Mini S was the up-market version and included the three-dial dash, wheel arch flares, Rostyle wheels, etc.

From then on, improvements due to ADR requirements or market-driven were always across the board and included better "tombstone style" seats, handbrake warning light, reversing lights, etc, so these were found on the standard model as well as the Mini S.

Now, back when the Clubman Minis were being designed at Waterloo, the engineering designations given to the three models were YDO21 - Mini 1100; YDO22 - Mini Clubman De Luxe and YDO23 - Mini Clubman GT.

However, the model designations for sales, and consequently that shown on the Compliance plates, were YG2S6, YG2S7 and YG2S8 respectively.

The numbering system for all Leyland Australia vehicles changed in January 1973 (Issue 19) and the model designations became the Engineering designations - 021 and 022 respectively (YDO23 Clubman GT) having been discontinued.

Now, I have always believed that the number after the 2S on the compliance p[late referred not to the trim level, but to the model sequence, similar to what had been used previously on BMC ID plates. For example YKA2S1 was the first model Cooper, while YKG2S2 was the second model Cooper - the G designating the 1275cc engine of the Cooper S.

With the early compliance plates the numbers YG2S6, YG2S7 and YG2S8 referred to the model sequence - YG2S4 having been the Mk2 Cooper S, and YG2S5 (and YG2S3) having not been used - although no-one has been able to explain to me why they were not used.

With the change in model designation to 021 and 022, the Leyland Minis were the second models in the sequence, hence both the standard model (021) and the Mini S being designated 2S2 on the compliance plates.

The Mini S was 2S3, not because it was a higher trim level than the Mini S (the trim level was the same but there were more add-on extras). This is supported by the Mini LS being 2S4, even though it was exactly the same trim level as the Mini SS and had almost exactly the same list of accessories.

I'm afraid I can't shed any more light on the Compliance Status Code than already given.

The model specification was again changed, and chassis numbers again effectively reverted to 0, in April 1978 (see Issue 16) so that all vehicles across Leyland globally used the same production code designations.


So, in short, the Mini in question from the start of this thread is a standard model Leyland Mini, but not a "poverty pack", which had been discontinued in early 1973.


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oops - double posted


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Watto, agreed there was no YG2S5, but there was a YA2S5 (MiniMatic so-called `Mk2').
Interestingly, some dude stamped the compliance plate on mine YG2S5 though! :lol: but they got it right on the rad shroud. 8)

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Thanks Doc.

Lucky you, the only YG2S5 in existence!!

Thinking about it, that partly explains why they would not have used YG2S5, as it could cause a bit of confusion with YA2S5.

But then, they did use YMA2S1 and YKA2S1......hmmmmm

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I think they tried to clear things up a bit with the Mk2s.


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