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I would like to be a part of the Mini1000/1100
Yes, Im in. 72%  72%  [ 18 ]
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If you get something happening, make sure you keep us informed at The Mini Experience - our details are in the front of the mag - and we will cover the events, just as we cover the MRA events.

Remember too that MRA has a variety of classes, from road reg to full hybrids - and are getting medium-sized grids. Perhaps talk to Brian Waldon about the possability of running as an extra class - 1000/1100 - or two classes, within their championship. This would help them fill grids, put more Minis on the track, give the people who want to spend big bucks the potential of moving up in class and keep the slower/cheaper classes affordable.

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Now that makes lots of sense ;)
Ill definately do that Watto! Thanks.

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OK Folks... ANSWERS TO YOUR PRESSING QUESTIONS.

1. Who will police it? No need to much so that will be worked out later.
WHY? Because the rule will be... If you have a 998 or 1100 block - you can race. Heads, Cams, Cranks, etc all open...
2. Will it be inline with MRA. Yes and will be Qualifying and racing.
3. Tyres - Any commercially available radial which has a min 60 Aspect ratio (10" rim or 12" rim is ok as long as its a 60 profile and a commercially available radial!)
4. Fuel - Commercial Pump fuel is fine.
5. DANIEL! :) - Adjustable Elec Ignition. - You can run what ignition module you want however only 2 leads from the Dizzy allowed. Pulsar, Subaru, etc fine.
6. Coachwork - 6" fit under the guards without chopping up the car... so this one stays.
7. Safety equipment - You require a suit, helmet and gloves. You do NOT require the FIA suit as its too $$$ but the SFI ones are fine. GR and I spoke to someone today and might be able to get suits at a very good price (SFI approved of course)
8. Roll Cage - We are finding out specifics on this. I am getting the roll bar to source a templates. We may be able to get some made in one go... the rest of the cage is welding in so is easy enough...


Side Notes:
For those who dont have or plan to have a 998/1100 and race or really do not want to participate in getting this off the ground or are being anal about the rules.... while we appreciate your thoughts, please keep them as thoughts and not in this thread! If you feel like you genuinly want to get involved in what could be a GREAT race with Minis at an affordable price, I am happy to hear your concerns.

Side Note 2:
In the original series, they had 3 fully road registered Minis racing... FYI


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i'm still keen :lol:

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Why the insistence on tandem brake MCs?
Cooper S got by happily on track with single line MC, which are not rocking horse like the tandem Mini ones now. :?

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Its a requirement for any race car in Australia unless it was built many yearago, it must have dual circut braking system if built in the last 20 years, they say its safer and you don't have to use the mini one. :D

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pristic wrote:
1. Who will police it? No need to much so that will be worked out later.
WHY? Because the rule will be... If you have a 998 or 1100 block - you can race. Heads, Cams, Cranks, etc all open...

12G940 heads?

3. Tyres - Any commercially available radial which has a min 60 Aspect ratio (10" rim or 12" rim is ok as long as its a 60 profile and a commercially available radial!)

8.4" brakes to go under 12" wheels? I think 10" wheels should be mandatory

8. Roll Cage - We are finding out specifics on this. I am getting the roll bar to source a templates. We may be able to get some made in one go... the rest of the cage is welding in so is easy enough...

this is a great idea - the cage is probably the part I'm most worried about.... if there is a batch lot made, would it be possible to get them CAMS approved as well?


just clarification or potential considerations for detailed planning, not being anal I swear!!


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just to make something clear

Anyone can build a roll cage, the types of joins and materials and design to use are in the Cams manual and as long as you follow the manual it will be OK, last year I was the scrutineer for the MRA and if you people are gomg to run with the MRA someone better speak to Brian about it and he will send you a set of regs about the safety requirements and what license you will need to run

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Pristic I have been reading the proposal to reignite the old 1000cc racers with intrest. But I think before you tell people that your series will be run inline with the MRA it would have been a good idea to approach me regarding what you intend to do before promising future racers something that you might not be able to deliver.

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Its about time you got here :lol:

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To all,

I don't like the idea of running on track with the MRA series, maybe at the same event but not at the same time. Mainly due to the speed difference, I think in 5 laps we'll be getting lapped and since some cars will be rego'd this could end up in tears.

The reason I suggested the IPRA rules as a base for a car build is that most of the proposed rules (see 1st post) fall within group 3J rules anyway. This way competitors can run in the state rounds in the under 2 litre category (independant of our own series) if they want. If there ends up being enough of us I'm sure an up to ...cc could be included in the future. NB - I know there is a speed difference here too but it means EC and Oran + others for those who wish to race more rounds.

I'm happy with the rules but no 8.4 brakes or 12G940 heads, this is easy to police at scrutineering anyway, same with SC boxes or drops and LSD's. I would like to see an rpm limit maybe but not until the first series is run and we see how many blow ups red flag races (I'll probably be the first btw). Some rules are to keep everyone on track for longer, look at Drag racing, a trans blanket is to stop bits of the box embedding into track surface etc.

Definately tandem cylinders for safety. You can buy generic datsun and others that will bolt in with minor mods and remote res, we are the champs at adapting are we not?
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Anyway, at the moment I'm in, anyone interested in a turbo motor :lol: .

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Sorry mate but you will not be running state rounds with your own rules :lol: why do you think the MRA was started

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I was going to refrain from comment but I have been in the speed difference game in motor racing.

The slower cars spend a lot of time getting out of the road of fast cars and that detracts from the process of learning race craft.

If you are in one of the faster cars and a slow car steps out in front of you its a real handful to negotiate that car safely particularly if the slower car is unpredictable and the faster car is also racing for position amongst fast traffic.


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learning to use your mirrors is part of learning race craft :lol: and there is always speed differences even in supposed formulas like HQ and crummydore cup

oran Park is closing after next year and EC is not a good track for mini'syou need a cut lunch for the straight :D

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MRA wrote:
Pristic I have been reading the proposal to reignite the old 1000cc racers with intrest. But I think before you tell people that your series will be run inline with the MRA it would have been a good idea to approach me regarding what you intend to do before promising future racers something that you might not be able to deliver.


Howdy,

Thanks for chiming in... please talk to Graham as I am basically the voice in this thing. We all know how good Graham is with engines but his IT and computer skills are not so good.

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pristic wrote:
1. Who will police it? No need to much so that will be worked out later.
WHY? Because the rule will be... If you have a 998 or 1100 block - you can race. Heads, Cams, Cranks, etc all open...

12G940 heads? <-- NO. Any SMALL BORE HEAD is fine.

3. Tyres - Any commercially available radial which has a min 60 Aspect ratio (10" rim or 12" rim is ok as long as its a 60 profile and a commercially available radial!)

8.4" brakes to go under 12" wheels? I think 10" wheels should be mandatory
Dont know... will find out details. Maybe 10" only?

8. Roll Cage - We are finding out specifics on this. I am getting the roll bar to source a templates. We may be able to get some made in one go... the rest of the cage is welding in so is easy enough...

this is a great idea - the cage is probably the part I'm most worried about.... if there is a batch lot made, would it be possible to get them CAMS approved as well?


just clarification or potential considerations for detailed planning, not being anal I swear!!

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